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What If It All Goes Right? Angela Gargano on Resilience, Reinvention & Doing the (Pull-Up) Work

What If It All Goes Right? Angela Gargano on Resilience, Reinvention & Doing the (Pull-Up) Work

What if your lowest moment was the beginning of your greatest transformation?

In this powerhouse episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with six-time American Ninja Warrior, keynote speaker, and Pull-Up Revolution founder Angela Gargano. From tearing her ACL on national TV to moving into her dad’s basement and starting over, Angela’s story is the definition of a comeback. She opens up about identity, healing through movement, and what it really takes to feel strong, mentally and physically. Whether you’re chasing a fitness goal, struggling to find your purpose, or just trying to stay present, Angela’s wisdom will move you. Literally.

How do you rebuild your life when your identity no longer fits, and learn to love yourself beyond your achievements?

Stripping away external validation proves that strength isn’t just physical. It’s about emotional resilience and self-love.

(00:00) From Biochemist to Ninja Warrior: A Wild Career Pivot

  • Angela’s unexpected leap from lab work to national television
  • She originally had no clue what American Ninja Warrior was
  • Her early fitness competition days with Cathy Savage — and how they shaped her confidence
  • How being labeled “manly” for having muscles became a source of power, not shame


(08:00) Injury, Identity & Starting Over in Her Dad’s Basement

  • The ACL tear that stopped her Ninja dreams — and forced a reckoning with self-worth
  • Losing her gym, her career path, and her direction — but finding her mindset
  • Why so many high achievers link love to accomplishments (and how to break that cycle)
  • “I just didn’t even know who I was anymore” — Angela on redefining her purpose


(16:00) One Pull-Up Can Change Everything: The Birth of a Movement

  • How helping Women’s Health editor Liz Plosser get her first pull-up sparked a revolution
  • Why the pull-up became a metaphor for doing hard things — at any age
  • Creating community and confidence through movement
  • Angela’s advice for building your strength, one rep at a time


(20:00) Fitness Without the Finish Line: Training for Life, Not Just Competition

  • What her workouts look like now — and why mini goals keep her motivated
  • Angela’s tips for functional strength and long-term health
  • Her approach to balance: strength training, yoga, and fun 
  • Karena shares her 21-day system to stay accountable and avoid burnout


(25:00) Mental Health, Meditation & Getting Unstuck

  • How moving your body and getting back to basics can pull you out of a rut
  • Meditation and breathwork routines — and why they actually work
  • Tips for navigating anxiety and sleepless nights 


(30:00) The New Rules of Wellness: Eat More, Lift More, Live Longer

  • Why the fitness world is finally embracing protein, muscle, and rest
  • The rise (and cost!) of Pilates — and Angela’s thoughts on biohacking
  • What really works for longevity — and what’s just hype
  • Why failure is just research, every mistake is a step forward


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The Cure for Everything? Self-Forgiveness: Dr. Samantha Harte on Battling Addiction, Betrayal, and Rewriting Her Story

The Cure for Everything? Self-Forgiveness: Dr. Samantha Harte on Battling Addiction, Betrayal, and Rewriting Her Story

What happens when you confront your darkest moments and choose to heal, instead of staying stuck in the pain?

In this raw and inspiring episode of The Big Silence, Karena Dawn is joined by Dr. Samantha Harte, author of Breaking the Circuit. She’s a physical therapist, author, and sobriety advocate. Harte opens up about rebuilding her life after addiction and navigating a traumatic childhood. Through it all, she discovered the healing power of vulnerability and forgiveness, ultimately learning to rewire her brain and change her story.

Her picture-perfect high school existence masked unbearable pain, leading to a soul-shaking drug overdose. While navigating the challenges of sobriety in the midst of a crumbling marriage and painful loss, Samantha found herself at rock bottom. What came next was a radical reworking of her inner life and the birth of a new identity — one grounded in compassionate curiosity, revolutionary responsibility, and finally, self-forgiveness.

This conversation is a masterclass in what it means to confront your truths, rewire your mind, and write a new story — no matter how broken the past may seem.

How Do We Take Pain and Turn It Into Something Positive, Even Transformative?

Dr. Harte explains why healing begins with self-forgiveness — and how shame, silence, and perfectionism keep us stuck in destructive loops.  Learning to forgive, starting with yourself, is key to breaking free from toxic cycles.


(00:058) When Everything Looks Fine — But You’re Falling Apart Inside

  • The internal divide between outward success and private suffering: “Straddling myself between these two worlds, these two identities, like everything is fine and nothing is ok.”
  • A very ill-timed overdose that became a wake-up call
  • The unbearable weight of feeling stuck with yourself when your inner voice becomes your fiercest critic

(00:10:04) Five Years Sober, Still Miserable: The Trap of White-Knuckling Recovery

  • Perfectionism can doom sobriety: “It works until it doesn’t. Perfectionism collapses in matters of the heart.” 
  • Her marriage collapses under the weight of unspoken resentment, infidelity, and untreated trauma.
  • “All of those mechanisms that kept me safe as a girl were killing me as an adult.”

(00:18:30) Spiritual Rock Bottom: The Breakthrough Moment That Changed Everything

  • How addiction takes hold, even when you’re convinced you have it under control
  • Knowing when you’ve hit "spiritual rock bottom" and turning it into a catalyst for change
  • Turning your deepest fears and pain into life-altering breakthroughs

(00:22:40) Compassionate Curiosity: The Self-Talk That Can Save Your Life

  • Intercepting your inner critic with the triangle of compassionate curiosity and radical responsibility: “Why did I just do that?” and “What am I gonna do about it now?” 
  • The parenting advice we all need: how apology clears shame and models emotional intelligence for your kids.

(00:31:30) Betrayal, Infidelity, and the Truth That Finally Came Out

  • The loss of her sister and her declaration to write a book
  • Becoming the “girl who 12-stepped the world.” Applying AA’s 12-step program to other aspects of life
  • “The fear of any type of judgment absolutely collapsed.” Rising to the level of our goals and creating habits 

(00:31:30) Healing and Forgiveness: Can You Ever Forgive the Unforgivable?

  • The struggle and importance of forgiving others (and yourself) in the healing process
  • Why forgiving betrayal doesn’t mean condoning hurtful actions
  • The spiritual and emotional liberation that comes with true forgiveness

(00:53:00) Rewiring the Mind:...

“You Can’t Quit If You Care”: Carl Daikeler on Grit, Growth & Why Abs Aren’t the Goal Anymore

“You Can’t Quit If You Care”: Carl Daikeler on Grit, Growth & Why Abs Aren’t the Goal Anymore

What if you built a billion-dollar fitness empire — and then had the courage to tear it down for something better?

In this powerful episode of The Big Silence, Karena Dawn sits down with Carl Daikeler, founder of Beachbody (now known as BODi), the man behind household names like P90X, Insanity, Shakeology, and Morning Meltdown 100. But this isn’t just a story of success — it’s a brutally honest look at motivation, body image, entrepreneurship, and the daily mental work it takes to keep going when things get hard.

From growing up backstage in a Pennsylvania theater to running a global health brand with over a million users, Carl shares the emotional, mental, and spiritual tools that have kept him moving forward. You’ll hear about the behind-the-scenes challenges of rebranding from Beachbody to BODi, the surprising role Broadway played in his journey, and his no-BS take on fitness fads, GLP-1s, and tech obsession.

Are We Measuring Fitness Wrong?

Carl and Karena unpack the myths of the wellness industry — including why the best fitness “tech” is already inside you.

(00:01:50) The Birth of Beachbody: A Brand Built for People Who Hate Working Out

  • Carl created Beachbody to help impatient, goal-oriented people get consistent without loving fitness.
  • Success didn’t come from being a guru — it came from being a relatable customer.
  • “Day one to day done”: Programs need structure, not endless motivation.
  • Community was always the secret sauce: message boards before social media.

(00:09:30) From Infomercials to Shakeology to MLM: Lessons in Iteration

  • P90X’s breakout success during the 2008 recession changed the game.
  • Word-of-mouth became the strategy behind the multi-level model.
  • “The customer who solves their lifestyle problem deserves the reward.”
  • Carl defends the ethics and intent behind Beachbody’s direct sales shift — and why it had to evolve.


(00:15:43) GLP-1s, Obesity, and What the Industry Is Getting Wrong

  • Carl’s stance: These meds are tools — but not solutions without resistance training and nutrition.
  • “Lifestyle change is so hard… but if you can monetize your consistency? That’s powerful.”
  • The secret pill culture from the ‘90s is back — but smarter wellness demands a full-picture approach.
  • Fitness tech is great — until it overrides your intuition.


(00:18:46) Carl’s Morning Routine: Cold Plunges, Kefir & Spinach Shakes

  • Wake-up time: ~5–6 AM, no alarm.
  • Lemon water + ginger + olive oil + kefir shot = ritual jumpstart.
  • 3.5-minute cold plunge followed by a 45-min workout.
  • Weekend DIY meal prep keeps him on track — and surprisingly, he hates vegetables.


(00:24:00) The Power of Persistence: What’s Made Him Relentless

  • “It’s about the objective — even if it's just influencing one person.”
  • Reads company case studies and biographies to stay grounded.
  • Avoids victim mindset: “Self-pity invites fear, and fear kills creativity.”
  • Expansion, not perfection, keeps him engaged after 27 years.


(00:28:34) Why He Changed “Beachbody” to “BODi” — And Faced the Backlash

  • Beachbody = outdated ideals; BODi = well-being and “health esteem.
  • Carl wanted his kids to grow up with a healthier message around body image.
  • Despite board resistance, he pushed the rebrand through for long-term values.
  • “Do I want to be known for six-pack abs… or for helping people love themselves enough to take care of themselves?”


 (00:33:32) Where Fitness Needs to Go: Simple, Sustainable, and...

Saturn Returns, Body Shame & Burnout: A Raw Conversation with Almost 30’s Krista & Lindsey

Saturn Returns, Body Shame & Burnout: A Raw Conversation with Almost 30’s Krista & Lindsey

What if your anxiety is actually your soul speaking to you? In this episode of The Big Silence, Karena reunites with longtime friends and Almost 30 podcast co-founders Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik to talk about life transitions, healing burnout, and the emotional power of their first book. From learning to listen to your intuition to rewriting generational body image beliefs, these two best friends open up about the lessons they wish they knew in their late 20s. With 120M+ downloads and a thriving global community, Almost 30 is a cultural phenomenon — and this conversation is a heart-expanding, soul-grounding glimpse into the wisdom behind it.

How Do You Know If You’re Burnt Out or Just Overwhelmed?

Krista and Lindsey share the unspoken signs of burnout — and the practices that helped them break the loop of over-functioning and inner criticism.


(00:00:00) Writing the Book That Didn’t Exist When They Were 29

  • The Almost 30 book began as a guide for the women they once were: overwhelmed, uncertain, and hungry for more.
  • Their Saturn Returns brought identity shifts, career pivots, and deep self-questioning.
  • “No one prepares you for this phase of life — and we wanted to change that.”


(00:06:10) The Truth About Intuition and Why We Don’t Always Trust It

  • “Your soul already knows the answer. But the noise of life drowns it out.”
  • Quiet, prayer, journaling, and time off social media are keys to tuning back in.
  • Anxiety often signals you're ignoring what your soul is trying to say.


(00:10:00) Understanding Burnout as a Mind-Body Loop

  • Burnout can look like pushing, people-pleasing, and low-level anxiety you can’t shake.
  • Their reframes: the inner critic becomes the inner coach; rest isn’t failure, it’s fuel.
  • “If you keep pushing energy out, there’s no room for any to come back in.”


How Do We Heal the Body Image Stories We Inherited?

They get real about food shame, generational trauma, and how women can reclaim their bodies — not as objects, but as intuitive allies.


(00:21:30) Rewriting Generational Patterns Around Body and Worth

  • Krista shares how her mother’s diet obsession shaped her secret eating disorder.
  • Lindsey describes numbing through overworking, overexercising, and overgiving.
  • “We learned to hate our bodies before we learned to love ourselves.”


(00:25:00) Body as Compass: What It Means to Truly Be in Your Body

  • The body gives you signs — a tight chest, a headache, a gut feeling — and we ignore them at our own risk.
  • “My body was trying to tell me I was in the wrong life. But I was too anxious to hear it.”


How Can Friendships Survive Growth, Grief, and Glow-Ups?

After a decade of building a business together, Krista and Lindsey get raw about friendship contracts, trust issues, and the hard work behind staying connected.


(00:38:00) Friendship in Transition: Divorce, Babies, and Bicoastal Life

  • They explore the myth that friendships shouldn’t change — and why letting go is sometimes the most loving act.
  • Their tools: therapy, coaching, and “clearing conversations.”
  • “Our connection is the foundation of the podcast. But we had to fight for it.”


(00:41:45) Letting People Evolve Without Expecting Them to Stay the Same

  • Real friendship means looser grip, fewer expectations, and more grace.
  • “Your life doesn’t begin on the other side of a perfect relationship, job, or weight. It begins when you trust yourself.”


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“We Didn’t Know It Was Hormones”: Katy & Josh on Miscarriage, Sex Drive & Starting Over

“We Didn’t Know It Was Hormones”: Katy & Josh on Miscarriage, Sex Drive & Starting Over

What if your symptoms weren’t “just in your head”? On this heartfelt and hilarious episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with Katy and Josh, the powerhouse couple behind the wellness brands Joi and Blokes (now unified under Relon). From four miscarriages and lost sex drives to unexpected weight gain and hormone havoc, they candidly share how their personal struggles with health, marriage, and identity led to the creation of a thriving health movement. Whether you're a woman navigating perimenopause, a man feeling off but unsure why, or a couple trying to make love and business work — this episode is packed with hope, humor, and healing.

The Big Question:

How do we reclaim our vitality — physically, emotionally, and sexually — when life (and hormones) throw us off balance?

(00:00) When Wellness Gets Personal: The Origin of Joi & Blokes

  • Katy and Josh reflect on nearly 10 years together — and how working together began with money, then real estate, and ultimately hormone health.
  • Their health journey began in crisis: low libido, anxiety, perimenopause, and postpartum changes.
  • A shared commitment to wellness helped them go from rock bottom to building a company based on lived experience.
  • Why men’s hormonal health (and mental health) needs more visibility, especially during Men’s Mental Health Awareness Month.

(04:00) Hormones, Heartbreak & Healing: The Miscarriage Journey

  • The couple opens up about enduring four miscarriages and the emotional toll it took on their marriage.
  • Josh withdrew while Katy powered forward — causing emotional disconnection until they learned how to communicate again.
  • How surrendering control (and stress) may have played a role in two natural pregnancies after IVF and surrogacy attempts.
  • A powerful reminder: grief affects everyone differently — and healing takes teamwork.


(10:00) Sex, Sleep & Sanity: The Real Hormone Conversation

  • Josh shares the shame and confusion of low testosterone — and how addressing it changed everything.
  • Katy opens up about anxiety, insomnia, and her game-changing experience with progesterone.
  • Why checking both partners’ labs is crucial for a healthy relationship.
  • Karena joins in on how sleep, stress, and sex drive shifted in her own hormonal journey.


(18:00) Movement, Mindset & Muscle: Wellness Habits That Actually Work

  • Katy and Karena talk lifting heavy, protein struggles, and redefining strength after 40.
  • Josh lost over 50 pounds in 5 months — not with fads, but with free tools: sleep, movement, mindset, and consistency.
  • “Movement is medicine”: how a simple walk can be the gateway to a healthier life.
  • It’s not about quick fixes — it’s about reclaiming ownership over your body, one choice at a time.


(24:00) Love, Business & Balance: The Reality of Working With Your Spouse

  • Why entrepreneurship as a couple isn’t for the faint of heart — but also deeply rewarding.
  • The importance of boundaries (even when they’re broken at dinner).
  • Their secret sauce: divide and conquer, communicate often, and trust each other’s zone of genius.
  • Joi and Blokes are scaling — and staying true to its mission of helping others feel better.


This episode was Filmed at the Thompson Nashville. 


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Healing Through Faith, Food & Hormones: Cara Clark’s Anti-Diet Approach to Real Wellness

Healing Through Faith, Food & Hormones: Cara Clark’s Anti-Diet Approach to Real Wellness

What if the path to true health wasn’t found in counting macros or cutting carbs—but in listening to your body, regulating your nervous system, and redefining your worth? Karena welcomes integrative nutritionist and mom of four, Cara Clark. From growing up in a chaotic home as one of eight kids to building a health empire rooted in faith and intuition, Cara opens up about performance-based love, disordered eating, menopause, and the transformational power of food. Her feel-good food philosophy, combined with her personal healing journey, is an invitation to slow down, nourish deeply, and redefine success on your own terms.

The Big Question:

How can women reclaim their health by tuning into their body, not society’s expectations?

From Midwest Chaos to California Calling (00:00:51)

  • Cara grew up as the oldest girl of eight siblings, describing her childhood as “chaos is normal.”
  • Her early environment shaped her mindset—performing well earned love and attention.
  • She reflects on moving from Indiana to California and the culture shock that transformed her health journey.
  • Faith and family were early anchors, but the need for external validation lingered into adulthood.


Performance-Based Love & Its Mental Health Cost (00:12:00)

  • Cara discusses how love in her childhood felt conditional—earned through achievements.
  • Therapy helped her realize she wasn’t broken in her marriage, but still healing from her upbringing.
  • She opens up about marrying young, launching her business with her husband’s support, and finding her calling through her clients.
  • Her story of realizing “rejection is protection” redefined her view of failure and success.


Eating Disorders, Faith, and the Feel-Good Food Philosophy (00:17:10)

  • After four kids in five years, Cara traded bootcamps for a sustainable nutrition business.
  • Her food philosophy: eat within one hour of waking, all three macros every meal, five colors per day.
  • She's passionate about regulating the nervous system as the foundation of healing.
  • Her latest book blends recipes with prayer, morning rituals, and intuitive nourishment.


Menopause, Macros & Meal Timing: Rethinking Women’s Nutrition (00:20:33)

  • Cara busts myths about intermittent fasting and explains why it's often harmful for cycling women.
  • She teaches why digestion is energy-intensive, and how eating earlier supports better sleep and hormone health.
  • Her approach helps women transition through perimenopause and menopause without shame or confusion.
  • “Protein doesn’t spike insulin”—a key tip for managing cortisol and energy in midlife.


Healing Through Cooking and Connection (00:27:45)

  • Cara believes you have to earn dessert—not by restriction, but by honoring the process and ingredients.
  • Cooking is a daily meditation and a form of connection for her family.
  • Her favorite part of each day? Building meals around cravings with intention, not guilt.
  • Recipes are more than food—they’re rituals, reflections, and healing tools.


This episode was Filmed at the Thompson Nashville. 


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From Stage Dreams to Silent Battles: Lindsey Ray on Letting Go of the “Perfect Career” for a True Life

From Stage Dreams to Silent Battles: Lindsey Ray on Letting Go of the “Perfect Career” for a True Life

On this episode of The Big Silence, Karena Dawn sits down with singer-songwriter Lindsey Ray — a powerhouse behind the scenes of the music industry with credits including Mariah Carey, Demi Lovato, and Tiësto. But beyond the accolades lies a story of self-reinvention, mental health awakening, and the hard decision to walk away from “success” in search of authenticity. From her childhood anxiety and people-pleasing tendencies to leaving a thriving music licensing career, Lindsey shares what it means to choose yourself — again and again.

Whether you're a fellow artist, a sensitive soul, or someone standing at the edge of a life change, Lindsey’s story offers hope that the biggest wins come when we stop performing for approval and start living for ourselves.

What Happens When Success Doesn’t Make You Happy Anymore?

Lindsey reflects on the emotional toll of chasing external validation — and what it took to finally start writing a new story for herself.

(00:02:10) The Silent Battle of Mental Health: From Anxious Childhood to Empowered Voice

  • Lindsey opens up about suffering silently for years — and the weight that lifted once she could name and share her mental health struggles.
  • Why childhood wounds often resurface in adulthood — and how Lindsey finds beauty in understanding that connection.
  • How Tone It Up, The Big Silence, and building community around mental health gave her a new mission.
  • Her journey from hiding anxiety to embracing it as part of her truth.


(00:08:30) From MySpace to Mariah Carey: The Wild Ride of an Indie Artist

  • How a MySpace video and an open mic night changed everything.
  • The unconventional way she ended up featured on a Tiësto track using an iPhone mic — while sick with strep throat.
  • Why she created alter egos like Raelle and Aliana to explore different music styles.
  • Learning the industry “rules” and why she ultimately rejected them to stay true to herself.


(00:21:00) When the Dream Isn’t Enough: Walking Away at the Peak of Success

  • Despite success in sync licensing, Lindsey realized she wasn’t fulfilled — and decided to walk away from a decade-long partnership.
  • The emotional, financial, and identity crisis that followed.
  • Discovering that people-pleasing was driving her choices, not passion.
  • Learning to let go of needing external approval and define her worth on her own terms.


(00:26:00) Rituals for Healing: How Lindsey Stays Grounded Today

  • Her go-to grounding practices: walks in the woods, bath rituals, lifting heavy weights, and alone time.
  • The importance of solitude as a sensitive person and empath.
  • Setting boundaries around emotional energy and people-pleasing.
  • The ongoing lesson: healing is not a finish line — it’s a lifelong practice.


(00:30:00) Redefining Success: Full Belly Breaths, Saying No, and Living Truthfully

  • Lindsey redefines success as peace, alignment, and the courage to say no.
  • How she’s learned to trust her body, her voice, and her path — even when it’s uncertain.
  • The power of living authentically and inspiring others to do the same.
  • Why letting go of what no longer serves you is sometimes the bravest thing you can do.


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From Bathroom Acoustics to Billboard: Avery Anna’s Healing Journey Through “Let Go Letters”

From Bathroom Acoustics to Billboard: Avery Anna’s Healing Journey Through “Let Go Letters”

What if your pain could become someone else’s healing? On this episode of The Big Silence, Karena sits down with rising country star Avery Anna on the eve of her 10th Grand Ole Opry performance. From humble beginnings recording in her mom’s bathtub to signing with Warner Music Nashville, Avery’s journey is anything but typical. But it’s her vulnerability that sets her apart. Inspired by fan-written “Let Go Letters” — anonymous notes sharing raw experiences of trauma, self-doubt, body image struggles, and more — Avery turned these confessions into her sophomore album, Let Go Letters (out May 16). In this heartfelt conversation, she shares how music became her therapy, how she balances the pressures of social media, and why songs like “Danny Don’t,” “Grave,” and “Self-Esteem for Sale” might just save a life.

How Can We Transform Pain into Purpose Through Music?

Avery reveals how fans’ anonymous letters inspired her to write songs that create community, healing, and understanding — proving we are never truly alone in what we’re going through.


(00:01:00) From TikTok to the Grand Ole Opry — Avery’s Unexpected Breakthrough

  • Pandemic boredom led Avery to post singing videos on TikTok — one went viral, launching her career.
  • Discovered by band Parmalee and signed to Warner Music Nashville within months.
  • Talks about imposter syndrome, self-doubt, and how faith and family keep her grounded.
  • How her upbringing in a close-knit, faith-based family in Flagstaff, Arizona shaped her values.


(00:04:50) The Birth of Let Go Letters: Turning Fans’ Pain Into Powerful Music

  • Avery began collecting anonymous fan letters at her shows, sparking the concept for Let Go Letters.
  • Writing songs like “Danny Don’t” based on a letter from a fan contemplating suicide.
  • The emotional toll and responsibility of holding space for her fans' deepest traumas.
  • How her music offers a safe space for healing — not just for fans, but for herself too.


(00:09:30) Writing About the Unspoken: Body Image, Sexual Trauma, and Self-Worth

  • Songs like “Vanilla” and “Grave” tackle sexual trauma with raw honesty.
  • “Self-Esteem for Sale” reflects the pressure of being a product on social media.
  • Avery shares how she protects her mental health by setting boundaries with technology.
  • The importance of reminding herself that her worth comes from who she is, not what she posts.


(00:20:00) Pre-Show Rituals, Tour Life, and the Realities Behind the Glam

  • Touring isn’t all glitz: van life, flat tires, and DIY road trips with her band.
  • Her quirky pre-show routine: honey shots, prayer circles, and unplugging from social media.
  • Why “Vanilla” is her favorite song to perform — a moment of collective healing on stage.


00:28:00) Songs That Heal: The Butterfly Project, My Mother Lies, and More

  • Inspired by a letter about self-harm, “The Butterfly Project” reminds listeners their pain impacts those who love them.
  • “My Mother Lies” explores how negative self-talk is passed down through generations.
  • Avery’s hope is that these songs help fans find their voice, their healing, and their community.


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148. EcoBabe Unplugged: Monica Richards on Sustainable Living, Inner Healing & Finding Joy in the Chaos

148. EcoBabe Unplugged: Monica Richards on Sustainable Living, Inner Healing & Finding Joy in the Chaos

What does it truly mean to live with intention—from the food we eat, to the candles we burn, to how we heal our inner child? This week on The Big Silence, Karena sits down with sustainable living expert and “EcoBabe” Monica Richards for an eye-opening, heart-filling conversation about how sustainability is more than composting—it's a lifestyle of reverence, joy, and healing. Monica shares her journey from a farm girl in Michigan to a TV host, interior designer, and now powerful advocate for the planet and our mental wellness. From practical eco-hacks to personal stories of spiritual alchemy and boundary-setting, this episode is packed with accessible shifts you can make today to live a cleaner, more conscious life—from the inside out.

What does sustainability have to do with your self-worth and mental health?

Monica doesn’t just talk eco-living—she lives it through purpose, resilience, and healing. In this conversation, we explore how your outer world reflects your inner work—and why it all starts with intention.

(00:03:29) Starting Small with Sustainability: The All-or-Nothing Myth

  • Sustainability is not about perfection—it’s about intention.
  • Monica explains why the “cancel culture” in the eco-space is actually hurting the movement.
  • Simple first steps: Start with one drawer, one habit, one food scrap bin.
  • How petitions, composting apps, and even your shampoo bar can make a major impact.

(00:08:29) Building a Passion-Driven Life: Career, Risk & Freedom

  • Monica opens up about struggling with finances and not always being understood by family.
  • Why aligning your purpose with impact is worth every risk.
  • The truth about entrepreneurship: sleepless nights, inner healing, and never really “clocking out.”
  • Why Monica’s word for the year is “freedom”—and how she’s manifesting it.


(00:12:23) From Scarcity to Sovereignty: Inner Child Work & Alchemy Healing

  • How Monica overcame a "play small" mindset around money and worth.
  • A deep dive into her practice of alchemy—healing trauma through gratitude, trust, and love.
  • A triggering moment with a stranger becomes a portal to growth.
  • The unexpected power of talking to your inner child using a favorite childhood photo.


(00:27:12) Sustainable Interior Design & What’s Hiding In Your Home

  • The toxic truth about candles, plastics, and your indoor air.
  • Top 3 home changes Monica notices immediately (and how you can fix them).
  • Favorite low-waste, clean beauty and personal care brands.
  • How shampoo and conditioner bars can eliminate plastic and elevate your hair game.


(00:37:10) The Mental Health of Consumption & Conscious Media Detoxing

  • How digital overload affects our energy and mental health.
  • Monica shares why being selective about what you consume (including the news!) is self-care.
  • What it means to create from your “inner space.”
  • Final takeaway: Everything you create begins inside. Go inward, connect with your inner child, and start healing.


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Bio of The Big Silence

The Big Silence is a podcast hosted by Karena Dawn, a mental health advocate, wellness entrepreneur, co-founder of Tone It Up, and New York Times bestselling author. 

The Big Silence is dedicated to normalizing conversations around mental health and empowering individuals to transform their challenges into triumphs. In this podcast, Karena creates a safe space for sharing personal stories and encourages listeners to do the same.

Karena's own life has been marked by profound grief and trauma. Growing up with a mother diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, she experienced a childhood filled with traumatic events, leading to repressed emotions of guilt, shame, depression, and ultimately, a suicide attempt. 

Despite the darkness she faced, Karena found a profound sense of joy. Through The Big Silence, she aims to help others discover that same joy within themselves.

The podcast features in-depth conversations with psychologists, spiritual leaders, public figures, friends, and individuals impacted by mental health conditions, whether personally or through their loved ones. 

By shedding light on these experiences and breaking the silence surrounding mental health, The Big Silence seeks to dismantle the stigma and create opportunities for healing.

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