The Sound Off Podcast

Greg Wasserman from RSS.com is on the show to talk podcasting. Having made his way through the media ad buying world, Greg spent some time selling for the CBS radio cluster in LA before hooking in to podcasting. We share some similar views when it comes to the importance of show packaging, including artwork and descriptions, to attract and retain listeners. We also talked about the shift from downloads to audience engagement across multiple platforms like YouTube. Then we talked about the new toys in the toy box at RSS.com. Like their new programmatic ad feature, which allows podcasters to monetize with as few as 10 downloads per month. Additionally, he mentions the potential of video podcasting through HLS and the significance of local and location tags for building hyper-local communities. Now before you bail on the show and think things like HLS is geeky and silly, ask yourself. Do you want to let YouTube house all your video or do you want some degree of control over it?

Greg also shares his LinkedIn initiatives, Podcast Monday and Give Back Tuesday, aimed at discovering and supporting podcasts and job seekers.

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Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Pat Moran is the host of Talking Buffalo, He covers all things Buffalo, which includes the Buffalo Bills and Sabres, and Buffalo Wings. In this episode we emphasized the importance of credibility and trust in reporting. Moran highlights mistakes in sports media, such as a false report about Max Hairston's injury and a red helmet story, stressing the need for accuracy over speed. He also discusses the competitive landscape of sports media, the impact of national versus local coverage, and the benefits of networking and partnerships, including his experience with Blue Wire Network. Moran concludes with his optimistic outlook for the Buffalo Bills' 2025 season.

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You can connect with Pat's tiers for Wings in Western New York here. It is a stellar list.

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Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Romina Hakim is the owner of Red Lips Media. She is one of those creators who scores a hattrick in audio creation as her work extends from radio, to voiceover and to podcasting. We talked all three with the Argentinian, from successful radio host and podcast coach to her voiceover work as a Spanish voice for big brands. She highlights her move from Argentina to Barcelona, where she faced challenges adapting to the Castilian accent but eventually secured voiceover work with apps like calm.com. Romina talked about the importance of creativity, audience engagement, and authenticity in podcasting. And (my favourite part) the need for podcasters to understand their audience, experiment with formats, and leverage social media platforms like Reddit and Pinterest to grow their audience.

Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. Full of all the verbal diarrhea you never knew what you were missing in your life.

Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I had the pleasure of speaking with Dave Sturgeon, a true veteran of the radio industry. With over 40 years of experience, Dave shared his journey from starting on-air in small-town Ontario to managing stations across North America and eventually running his own agency. We discussed his unique path—transitioning from rock radio to talk, then into sales and management, and finally agency ownership. Dave offered candid insights into the challenges and rewards of each role, emphasizing the power of connection that radio brings. He explained why, despite the rise of digital, radio remains a foundational medium for advertisers, driving real results that digital alone can’t match. We also explored the myths surrounding radio’s relevance and measurement, and Dave’s new book, "The Truth About Radio: A Myth Busting Guide For Today's Media Buyers and Sellers" which aims to bust those myths. This conversation is a reminder of radio’s enduring impact and the passion that keeps it alive.

Dave is a very good LinkedIn Follow.

Buy Dave's Book. - Canada

Buy Dave's Book - USA

Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. Full of all the verbal diarrhea you never knew what you were missing in your life.

Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For the last month we have been surveying listeners to the show.. and anyone else who clicked on our links. In all, the feedback was largely positive; as I expect it would be when you are asking high users of the product. Overall, we learned that a lot of our audience does not listen to every episode. We kind of knew that because of how different the audiences are between broadcast and podcast. We also found that you like the consistent releases of the episode and the frequency. Thank you for participating in the survey.

You still have time to participate.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It was announced at Podcast Movement last year that Paul Riismandel would be taking over as President of Signal Hill Insights and Jeff Vidler would be stepping back from day-to-day duties, and segueing towards retirement. The same way a musician never stops being a musician, and a writer never stops being a writer; researchers may stop doing working for research companies, but their minds never stop asking questions. I've known Jeff for so long that I don't think he will ever stop wondering why something in audio is the way it is.

Jeff has been on the show a number of times before to discuss much of what he researches. But we have never started from the beginning. Until now. We covered his career through research, radio and podcasting. Starting in the 1980s, Vidler worked at various radio stations, including CKDA and CJAY 92 in Calgary. He transitioned to Joint Communications as a music director, where he helped shape radio formats. He then moved to CJFM in Montreal, improving ratings and rebranding the station to Mix96. He later founded Audience Insights and later Signal Hill Insights.

And yes we spook a fair bit about the future too, highlighting the importance of YouTube for podcast discovery and the challenges faced by Canadian podcasters due to smaller advertising budgets. We didn't solve every problem, but we solved a few.

Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. Full of all the verbal diarrhea you never knew what you were missing in your life.

Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Norma Jean Belenky is the host of the Podbiz, and we didn't get a chance to finish our conversation we started at the Podcast Show in London - so we did so on a podcast. We also didn't have time to talk about everything in London, given her experience living in seven countries. Ideally all of her pod-merch should have "Where's the Money?" emblazoned on every t-shirt and mug; it is the question everyone asks.

We explored her life before PodBiz, from teaching English in South Korea to creating music and working at Podbean, which ultimately led her to launch her own podcast focused on how creators can make money in this evolving medium.

We did our best to look beyond simple download numbers, discussing the importance of niche audiences and creating genuine value for listeners. Norma Jean and her co-host John Kiernan are committed to showing us that there are other podcast revenue strategies, including sponsorships, subscriptions, and strategic content creation. We discussed emerging trends like video podcasting and community building, offering listeners a comprehensive look at the exciting potential of the podcasting industry.

Check out Podbiz here. And ESPECIALLY this episode with Danielle which we referenced a few times.

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Both the Sound Off Podcast and The Podcast Superfriends are apart of The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Paul Ferguson, VP of Programming and Operations at Starboard Communications in Belleville, Ontario discusses radio in a very unique market. Belleville is free from corporate ownership. Paul and I talk about how they keep radio relevant by focusing on local content, like the “Good News in Quinte” newsletter and a robust news website that keeps listeners informed and engaged. We discuss the challenges of adapting to new radio regulations, misguided internet laws like Bill C-11, the antidote which is Inquinte.ca and why it’s crucial to own our digital platforms to stay connected with our audience. Paul shares the administrative hurdles of Canadian content rules and how technology could make things easier. We also explore the evolution of radio, balancing live and voice-tracked shows, and the podcast journey with “Babes of Quinte.”

This episode is about the importance of localism, innovation, and community-driven content in today's challenging radio space.

Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. Full of all the verbal diarrhea you never knew what you were missing in your life.

Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:

Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data Solutions

Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.

Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Gordon Firemark is the podcast lawyer. I first had a chance to meet him at Podcast Movement in the late 10's. In 2022 I might have had a few cocktails when I asked him about hoe to manoeuvre cross-broder conflicts between podcasters. In this episode I ask the rest of the questions I had.

We discuss the importance of clear agreements between co-hosts and why you need a guest release forms. We then tackle the complexities of using music in podcasts due to copyright laws. Gordon explains the differences between copyright, trademark, and patent law, and how to protect podcast brand names and segments through trademark registration. But wait! There's more! There's sponsorship agreements, the importance of proper disclosure, and the challenges posed by international regulations, particularly for Canadian podcasters. Gordon also shares a few real-life anecdotes that illustrate the potential pitfalls of not having written agreements or proper permissions, such as costly legal disputes and misunderstandings with sponsors. (This one is jaw dropping)

Practical advice: Get everything in writing, understand your rights, and always prioritize clear communication to avoid legal entanglements in podcasting.

We spoke about having a guest release form to ensure that podcasters don't encounter any misunderstandings between them and their guests. You can access Gordon's free release form here.

You can get all the details about where Gordon will be next on his website.

See Gordon at Vidfest in Atlanta - August 21

See Gordon at Podcast Movement in Dallas - August 22-24

Gordon will be doing a live interactive game-show TwoTruths and a Lie: Podcasting Legal & Business Myths Busted.

And a presentation called Your Podcast Legal Toolkit: Copyrights, Trademarks, and Contracts Made Simple.

The listener survey can be found here. Complete it and I'll share with you, my Top 10 Podcast Hacks for 2025. 

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Both the Sound Off Podcast and The Podcast Superfriends are apart of The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.