The Engineering Leadership Podcast

ABOUT FARNAZ AZMOODEH

Farnaz is the CTO at Linktree, the leading social platform for creators and small businesses. Linktree enables its users to unify, curate, and monetize their online presence. Farnaz started her career at Google, focusing on the ad tech space. Farnaz then joined Snap, leading Snap's AR monetization team before scaling to run Snap's Platform and product engineering. Farnaz earned her bachelor's degree in computer science from Sharif University of Technology before moving to the U.S. to pursue a Ph.D. in computer science from the University of Southern California. After fulfilling the credits for a master’s degree, she decided to enter the tech industry where she could contribute to human progress by bringing products to millions of users.

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SHOW NOTES:

• Taking on product & design 3 months into a new role (3:01)
• Going from delivery to discovery: mindset shifts for eng leaders (5:58)
• Identifying the current state of engineering, product & design (10:59)
• Decision-making based on anecdotes vs. data (12:50)
• Pivoting strategies to optimize for small, fast teams to improve cross-functional collaboration (15:04)
• Signals to pivot your product approach & ****make different bets (16:59)
• Complementary skill sets for rapid iteration (19:14)
• How to avoid silencing critical input & transform team frustration into product insight (20:41)
• Applying the 80/20 rule to complex product surfaces (23:46)
• Case Study: Reprioritizing the LinkTree product w/ 80/20 approach (25:46)
• Bringing on a strategic product partner & kicking off org change (27:28)
• Be honest about your knowledge gaps (29:09)
• How Farnaz’s experiences at Snap inform her leadership as CTO (33:21)
• When pattern matching fails: frameworks for checking assumptions (35:22)
• Where EPD Is headed: cross-functional evolution in the age of AI (38:10)
• Rapid fire questions (38:58)

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT WADE CHAMBERS

Wade Chambers will be leading Engineering at Amplitude. Amplitude is the leading digital analytics platform that helps companies unlock the power of their products. Wade has over 25 years of engineering leadership experience, both advising companies and being hands-on in key leadership positions at companies such as Included Health, Twitter, TellApart, Proofpoint, Yahoo, and Opsware. He is a deep technical expert with a proven track record of scaling teams, leaders, market-defining technology innovations, and business growth.

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SHOW NOTES:

• Why empowering engineering teams to own their mission matters (3:16)
• Common traps that prevent eng leaders from empowering teams (5:15)
• Understanding the “why” behind ownership & systemizing individual ownership (7:09)
• Systems change for empowerment: Aligning company vision, outcomes, competencies & behaviors (9:48)
• How to bring someone from low ownership back to high ownership (13:49)
• Developing trust & having tough conversations around ownership (15:17)
• Nonobvious factors to that erode ownership over time (17:42)
• Empowering teams through meaningful missions, clear expectations, defining success, & ongoing check-ins (20:55)
• Identifying engineers w/ competencies & behaviors that align w/ your org’s vision & goals (24:00)
• When having too much ownership becomes a problem (27:22)
• Wade’s process for officially transferring ownership (28:47)
• Coaching and navigating conversations around ownership (32:01)
• Impactful questions to ask during the coaching / check in process (34:08)
• Closing gaps in leadership competencies & behaviors (37:27)
• Coaching leaders to align personal growth with org goals (39:25)
• Rapid fire questions (41:34)

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT FUNMI OLUDAIYE

Funmi is a Managing Director and the Head of the Digital Risk Office for Enterprise Partnerships at Goldman Sachs, where she is pioneering a first-of-its-kind global initiative to embed critical business, security, and engineering risk practices within the engineering organization. With nearly 15 years of experience as a software engineer, architect, and engineering manager, she has a proven track record of leading high-performing teams, delivering innovative technology solutions, and championing best practices in developer experience and productivity across large-scale engineering teams. Most recently, she was the Head of Engineering for Consumer Deposits at Marcus by Goldman Sachs, and prior to that, she led the product engineering teams that built and launched the firm's award-winning credit card partnerships with Apple and later, General Motors. Funmi is a passionate advocate for underrepresented groups in the technology industry and is committed to mentoring the next generation of engineering leaders. Her wealth of experience and dedication to driving positive change make her a sought-after speaker and advisor.

ABOUT KETAN GUPTA

Ketan is a seasoned engineering leader with 13+ years in software development, cloud, architecture, product delivery, and organizational leadership. He excels at building high-performing engineering teams and driving strategic initiatives. As an active community builder, he contributes to the Engineering Leaders Community and champions software craftsmanship.

ABOUT SASHA HALL

Sasha Hall is an Engineering Manager at Planitar Inc, makers of iGUIDE. A University of Waterloo graduate with over 5 years of leadership experience at Pegasus Aeronautics and Deep Trekker, Sasha brings valuable insights on decisive leadership, effective communication, and strategic vision in growing organizations. Their career path through underwater robotics at Deep Trekker, aerial drone systems at Pegasus Aeronautics, and spatial mapping technologies at Planitar showcases a passion for innovative hardware and sensing solutions. This diverse technical background, combined with consistent leadership dedication, has equipped Sasha with a unique perspective on navigating today's complex engineering challenges.

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SHOW NOTES:

Funmi discusses why successful eng leaders build true partnerships between engineering & business stakeholders (1:58)

Navigating the dynamics of engineering & cross-functional team partnerships (3:00)

Creating alignment / building relationships through fostering trust & curiosity (4:42)

How engaging w/ curiosity is key to building cross-functional relationships (7:21)

Funmi’s framework to help identify gaps in understanding (8:56)

Recognizing knowledge gaps and relying on subject matter experts (10:15)

Tips for navigating partnerships with multiple stakeholders (13:14)

What’s going on with ELC New York & the power of connecting with eng leaders (14:45)

Ketan discusses cloud transformation and AI integration (17:08)

Considering challenges w/ security, scalability, cost, flexibility & AI in cloud vs. hybrid migrations (18:04)

Explaining the impact of technical debt on organizations (20:04)

The STIR framework for managing tech debt during cloud migrations (21:17)

Translating tech debt into business value w/ STIR (24:17)

Separating continuous improvement / performance from tech debt (27:02)

Understanding team strengths & bolstering team motivation (29:24)

Ketan’s experience with ELC London (31:07)

Have fun with decision-making (33:29)

Sasha discusses optimizing team processes amid company growth & new hires (35:11)

Effective decision-making - balancing being decisive & thoughtful (37:36)

Examples of balancing quick decision-making w/ thoughtfulness (39:05)

How to refactor repetitive tasks to improve efficiency (40:32)

Balancing time, risk & impact in decision-making processes (42:06)

The value of building a network & finding mentors outside your own company (45:03)

Advice for jumping into ELC community events (47:41)

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT VINOD MARUR

Vinod Marur is the SVP of Engineering at Databricks. He was previously at Rubrik where he served as SVP Engineering and established a mature engineering organization geared for rapid product development and innovation with a deep focus on product quality and organizational development. Prior to that Vinod spent nearly 15 years in leadership roles across some of Google’s most critical business units, including Search, Ads, and Payments as well as tapping into his passion for developer platforms to create and lead the Actions on Google platform, used by third parties to develop for Google Assistant and other Google products.

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SHOW NOTES:

• Vinod’s process for recalibrating his leadership focus / priorities (2:25)
• Why routine can be dangerous & the mental shift required to prioritize impact (4:17)
• Examples of pivoting & how Vinod’s leadership priorities adapted (7:57)
• Strategies for assessing core priorities when scaling (9:39)
• Identifying where the most leverage is for your time (11:05)
• Signals that it’s time to recalibrate your organization’s priorities (13:27)
• Solving for information asymmetry: designing communication and collaboration structures (16:20)
• Rewriting hiring playbooks & tailoring recruitment pitches in a shifting market (18:56)
• Hiring tactics that worked five years ago that don’t anymore (21:21)
• The impact of AI on hiring practices (22:55)
• Current factors impacting hiring engineering leaders (25:30)
• Vinod’s framework for identifying the right problems to solve when transitioning to a new role (27:14)
• “The best leaders often start small, and progress to tackle larger problems” (28:33)
• Strategies for accelerating the impact of senior cross-functional partners (29:40)
• Obsessing over a single organizational goal & identifying champions to carry initiatives forward (31:25)
• Vinod’s latest obsession: the implementation and evolution of operational reviews (33:48)
• Rapid fire questions (36:36)

LINKS AND RESOURCES

• ACQUIRED - Acquired tells the stories and strategies of great companies, hosted by Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal. Acquired is a depth-first show. Episodes are 3-4 hours long, and are better described as "conversational audiobooks" than "podcasts." Episodes occasionally feature guests, such as the founders/CEOs of NVIDIA, Berkshire Hathaway, Starbucks, Meta, Spotify, Uber, Zoom, CAA, Sequoia Capital, and all five Benchmark partners.

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT JON HYMAN

Jon Hyman is the co-founder and chief technology officer of Braze, the customer engagement platform that delivers messaging experiences across push, email, in-app, and more. He leads the charge for building the platform’s technical systems and infrastructure as well as overseeing the company’s technical operations and engineering team.

Prior to Braze, Jon served as lead engineer for the Core Technology group at Bridgewater Associates, the world’s largest hedge fund. There, he managed a team that maintained 80+ software assets and was responsible for the security and stability of critical trading systems. Jon met cofounder Bill Magnuson during his time at Bridgewater, and together they won the 2011 TechCrunch Disrupt Hackathon. Jon is a recipient of the SmartCEO Executive Management Award in the CIO/CTO Category for New York. Jon holds a B.A. from Harvard University in Computer Science.

ABOUT BRAZE

Braze is the leading customer engagement platform that empowers brands to Be Absolutely Engaging.™ Braze allows any marketer to collect and take action on any amount of data from any source, so they can creatively engage with customers in real time, across channels from one platform. From cross-channel messaging and journey orchestration to Al-powered experimentation and optimization, Braze enables companies to build and maintain absolutely engaging relationships with their customers that foster growth and loyalty. The company has been recognized as a 2024 U.S. News & World Report Best Companies to Work For, 2024 Best Small & Medium Workplaces in Europe by Great Place to Work®, 2024 Fortune Best Workplaces for Women™ by Great Place to Work® and was named a Leader by Gartner® in the 2024 Magic Quadrant™ for Multichannel Marketing Hubs and a Strong Performer in The Forrester Wave™: Email Marketing Service Providers, Q3 2024.  Braze is headquartered in New York with 15 offices across North America, Europe, and APAC. Learn more at braze.com.

SHOW NOTES:

• What Jon learned from being the only person on call for his company’s first four years (2:56)
• Knowing when it’s time to get help managing your servers, ops, scaling, etc. (5:42)
• Establishing areas of product ownership & other scaling lessons from the early days (9:25)
• Frameworks for conversations on splitting of products across teams (12:00)
• The challenges, complexities & strategies behind assigning ownership in the early days (14:40)
• Founding Braze (18:01)
• Why Braze? The story & insights behind the original vision for Braze (20:08)
• Identifying Braze’s product market fit (22:34)
• Early-stage PMF challenges faced by Jon & his co-founders (25:40)
• Pivoting to focus on enterprise customers (27:48)
• “Let’s integrate the SDK right now” - founder-led sales ideas to validate your product (29:22)
• Behind the decision to hire a chief revenue officer for the first time (34:02)
• The evolution of enterprise & its impact on Braze’s product offering (36:42)
• Growing out of your early-stage failure modes (39:00)
• Why it’s important to make personnel decisions quickly (41:22)
• Setting & maintaining a vision pre IPO vs. post IPO (44:21)
• Jon’s next leadership evolution & growth areas he is focusing on (49:50)
• Rapid fire questions (52:53)

LINKS AND RESOURCES

• When We Cease to Understand the World - Benjamín Labatut’s fictional examination of the lives of real-life scientists and thinkers whose discoveries resulted in moral consequences beyond their imagining. At a breakneck pace and with a wealth of disturbing detail, Labatut uses the imaginative resources of fiction to tell the stories of Fritz Haber, Alexander Grothendieck, Werner Heisenberg, and Erwin Schrödinger, the scientists and mathematicians who expanded our notions of the possible.

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT RUKMINI REDDY

Rukmini Reddy is the Senior Vice President of Engineering, responsible for managing product and platform delivery, infrastructure, and data science. Reddy joins PagerDuty from Slack where she guided the vision, strategy, and execution of a comprehensive re-architecture, transforming the messaging software into an automation platform that empowered users to streamline their work.

Additionally, Rukmini spent over a decade in senior executive roles at various enterprise companies, where she built a strong track record in driving engineering and product strategy during periods of hyper-growth and product transformation across SaaS, B2B, and B2C business models.

Rukmini has a master of science degree in computer engineering from the University of Arkansas and earned a bachelor’s degree from Osmania University in computer science and engineering.

SHOW NOTES:

• How the role of engineering leadership has evolved from 2021 to 2025 (2:35)
• The rising importance of financial acumen & enduring importance of resilience in engineering leadership (5:28)
• Key questions to ground and align your team with mission, vision, customer impact, and position to win the market (7:04)
• What it means to become the leader your business needs (9:31)
• “Hugging the elephant” and overcoming fear & uncertainty in 2021 vs. today (12:26)
• Five questions to help you lead your team through transitions and change (16:03)
• How to incorporate this framework to drive org change with empathy (18:10)
• How to address questions about job security and future roles within an organization (20:21)
• Strategies to guide your team through unspoken fears & unknowns (23:47)
• Rukmini’s advice to create high-trust, high-impact sources of support through fear, uncertainty, and doubt for the first time (25:19)
• Navigating org change from first principles (27:21)
• How to move from the “informed pessimism” dip to “curious optimism” as a team & org (30:00)
• Using evangelism & experimentation to tackle common adoption fears (34:07)
• Examples of enablement & skill development / delivery (37:32)
• The role of enforcement in the adoption transformation curve (39:07)
• Rapid fire questions (42:33)

LINKS AND RESOURCES

• Good Strategy Bad Strategy: The Difference and Why It Matters -Richard P. Rumelt clarifies the muddled thinking underlying too many strategies and provides a clear way to create and implement a powerful action-oriented strategy for the real world.

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT ELIOT HOROWITZ

Eliot Horowitz is the Founder and CEO of Viam, an engineering platform unlocking AI, automation, and data for devices in the physical world. With a deep commitment to advancing technology, Eliot leads Viam in helping companies build solutions across robotics, food and beverage, climate, marine, industrial manufacturing, and more.

A career software developer and technology leader, Eliot co-founded MongoDB in 2007, writing the core code base for the pioneering database and leading the engineering and product teams for 13 years as CTO. MongoDB, which went public in 2017, has since reached a market cap of over $20 billion. Before MongoDB, he co-founded the ecommerce company ShopWiki and served as CTO, and he began his career in software development in the R&D group of adtech firm DoubleClick.

Eliot is passionate about using technology to address pressing societal issues, including working with WAVS to protect marine life in the North Atlantic and supporting Billion Oyster Project’s work to help restore New York Harbor’s ecosystem.

SHOW NOTES:

• The origin story of founding Viam (2:56)
• How Viam can be a game-changing platform, accelerating robotics software & hardware 10x to 100x (4:33)
• The ideation journey behind Viam: Building a platform that simplifies the integration of hardware and software development (6:11)
• Solving challenges with seamless APIs, a modular system, the right abstraction layers, and a comprehensive platform (9:54)
• Key questions for identifying the right abstraction layers at Viam (11:32)
• Optimizing your platform for flexibility and ease of use (13:32)
• The evolution of product building, from first-hand experience to customer-driven (16:33)
• How Eliot’s MongoDB Experience shaped Viam’s user-centric approach, open-source strategy, business model & ecosystem approach (18:48)
• Cultivating developer communities & leveraging community insights at MongoDB & Viam (23:01)
• Frameworks for deciding on your business model & pricing (24:52)
• Eliot’s approach to building developer tools & products used by engineers (26:23)
• Aligning your eng team & stakeholders on the product vision (29:51)
• What it means to deeply understand engineers and how they interact with your product (31:10)
• Strategies for eng leaders to better connect with customers (34:38)
• Viam’s real-world applications & what’s next (36:31)
• Rapid fire questions (39:31)

LINKS AND RESOURCES

• Viam - At Viam, we believe in the power of technology to make our world smarter, happier, and more sustainable. We're building a revolutionary engineering platform for problem-solving in the physical world, so that innovators from all disciplines can address humanity's most complex challenges with practical solutions. Together with our partners, we're committed to making a lasting positive impact on industries, communities, and the planet.

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT KEVIN STEWART

Kevin Stewart is an engineering executive focused on building teams to build products. He has helped shape the engineering culture at a number of startups, digital agencies and cloud companies. Kevin is particularly experienced in leading remote and distributed teams to consistently deliver quality products. Although he currently resides in Seattle, Kevin is a lifelong New Yorker with dreams of relocating to a sunny island in the Caribbean.

SHOW NOTES:

• Determining what you think is broken vs. what is actually broken (2:57)
• Focusing on the root issues around leadership & decision-making (4:46)
• Strategies for identifying the root cause of what is broken (9:08)
• A framework for diagnosing issues, making a compelling case to stakeholders, and driving high-impact change (10:59)
• Factors that impact decision making authority on your teams (13:53)
• Signals that your org faces learned helplessness & how to override it (16:13)
• Kevin’s advice for leaders who realize they contribute to a fearful environment (18:26)
• Kevin’s journey @ Splice and aligning personal values with the company mission (21:02)
• Challenges behind new strategy rollouts and the need for a customer-centric “north star” (26:26)
• Witnessing the emotional impact of your product on customers (29:44)
• Repetition is key when it comes to reinforcing your org’s vision (30:48)
• Prioritizing your time & resources between strategic and tactical work (32:32)
• Frameworks for aggressively auditing your calendar (35:47)
• How to empower your team and delegate. so they can operate autonomously and you can shift your focus to strategy and business objectives (37:37)
• Rapid fire questions (41:38)

LINKS AND RESOURCES

• The Nvidia Way: Jensen Huang and the Making of a Tech Giant - Tae Kim’s deeply reported business history of the chip-designer Nvidia—from its founding in 1993 to its recent emergence as one of the most valuable corporations in the world—explaining how the company’s culture, overseen by cofounder and CEO Jensen Huang, has powered its incredible success.

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/

ABOUT MAHER HANAFI

Maher Hanafi is a seasoned technology engineering leader, driving digital transformation and delivering impactful SaaS solutions. As Senior Vice President of Engineering at Betterworks, he leads the AI vision and applications for their AI-powered performance management software, overseeing the integration of AI tools that enhance HR functions like performance reviews, goal setting and employee development.

Maher's passion for technology centers on the transformative potential of AI, particularly Generative AI. He views it as a powerful tool capable of learning, adapting and solving real-world problems, and champions its responsible development to empower individuals.

Maher's vision extends beyond technology, aiming to revolutionize tech workplaces by fostering human potential alongside cutting-edge solutions. He employs a people-centric leadership style, building collaborative environments that empower teams to excel. This commitment to empowerment extends to mentoring fellow engineering leaders and sharing his knowledge through public speaking.

ABOUT COREY COTO

Corey Coto is a creative, data-driven, and innovative executive. He founded Kaizen Insights to help enterprises create business intelligence with their people. Corey was SVP of Product, Design and Engineering at a Vista Equity Partners portfolio company and held engineering leadership roles at Amazon, CoStar Group, and Liberty Mutual. He is a Founder Institute Mentor, an ELC Seattle Chapter Lead, and a startup advisor. Software is his favorite artistic medium because of its power to quickly move the needle on big ideas that can benefit people and the planet. He believes there has never been a better time to build. The future is bright!

SHOW NOTES:

• When Maher realized he needed to rethink his approach to AI & upskill quickly (3:38)
• Milestones across Maher’s AI knowledge progression (7:42)
• Set aside time for your eng team to experiment & apply AI learnings (11:09)
• Why intentionally building different use cases leads to better outcomes (14:22)
• The importance of revisiting AI decisions as a team (16:53)
• Frameworks for determining how deep to go into each learning area (19:37)
• How to navigate the challenges of going from proof of concept to production (22:43)
• Evaluating the ROI of AI applications (26:47)
• Strategies for deciding which resources / operating expenses go toward AI use cases (29:24)
• Tips for developing stakeholder confidence in your AI strategy (32:36)
• How non-technical experts can build AI awareness & confidence (36:22)
• Betterworks’ AI roadmap for 2025 (38:48)
• Rapid fire questions (40:58)

LINKS AND RESOURCES

• Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us - Drawing on four decades of scientific research on human motivation, Daniel H. Pink exposes the mismatch between what science knows and what business does—and how that affects every aspect of life. He examines the three elements of true motivation—autonomy, mastery, and purpose—and offers smart and surprising techniques for putting these into action in a unique book that will change how we think and transform how we live.

This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

Jerry Li - Co-Host

Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/