The Skift Travel Podcast

On this week's Skift Travel Podcast, hosts Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko dive into Skift's annual Megatrends, offering insights into how the travel landscape is evolving to meet new consumer expectations and societal changes. Key trends include the growing demand for pet-friendly accommodations, the professionalization of influencer marketing in travel, and a significant focus on AI’s impact behind the scenes. Seth and Sarah's conversation touches on the rise of live tourism and authentic, remote experiences as travelers prioritize connection and uniqueness over traditional luxury, as well as how psychedelics and "quiet luxury" are reshaping wellness and high-end travel markets. Read the feature: Skift Travel Megatrends for 2025 Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@skiftnews Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/skiftnews.bsky.social X: https://twitter.com/skift Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry.

Airline loyalty programs have long been considered highly valuable assets, generating significant revenue through credit card partnerships and brand affiliation. However, recent changes have made earning and redeeming miles increasingly complex, prompting frustration among everyday travelers. Lounges are overcrowded, and higher spending thresholds mean only top-tier customers maintain easy access to premium perks. Meanwhile, regulators are scrutinizing these programs for their lack of transparency and consumer fairness, leaving the future of airline loyalty uncertain. Read the feature story: Are Loyalty Programs Fair? The Backlash Against Airlines’ Most Valuable Asset Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@skiftnews Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/skiftnews.bsky.social X: https://twitter.com/skift Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry.

Hosts Seth Borko and Sarah Kopit by their Skift Research colleague Pranavi Agarwal. Agarwal authored a recent report that looked at the prospects for hotel direct bookings. How and where consumers book their hotel rooms can have huge implications for hotels, online travel agencies, and pretty much anyone in the travel industry. This is the third time in seven years that Skift has commissioned this report, and this year it revealed significant shifts in booking trends over the years, influenced by technology, consumer behavior, and market disruptions like the COVID-19 pandemic. 3 Key Themes Technological Advancements and Democratization: The role of improved hotel tech stacks and platforms like Google in leveling the playing field for direct bookings. How AI and other emerging technologies can make direct booking experiences more seamless for both chains and independent hotels. Consumer Behavior and Loyalty: Post-pandemic preferences for direct bookings due to perceived trust and flexibility. The growing emphasis on personalized experiences and how loyalty programs can drive direct bookings beyond just offering discounts. Shifts in Market Dynamics: OTAs losing ground to wholesalers and corporate agents as hotels prioritize high-volume group bookings. The fragmented nature of the hotel market, with increased opportunities for independent hotels to leverage social media and partnerships. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@skiftnews Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/skiftnews.bsky.social X: https://twitter.com/skift

Today marks the start of the holiday travel season in the United States, and that means tens of thousands of airline passengers are going to make flying difficult for everyone else by being completely unprepared to go through security lines at U.S. airports. And the Transportation Security Administration will be on the front lines of their nonsense.  For this episode of the Skift Travel Podcast hosts Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko sit down with Alexa Lopez, the Head of Strategic Communications and Public Affairs at the TSA. They discussed TSA’s role ensuring that people are able to ravel safely, the unique challenges of holiday travel, new travel technologies, and the agency’s evolving public image.  Key Subjects Holiday Travel Surge: TSA prepares for its “Super Bowl” during Thanksgiving, projecting record numbers of passengers and discussing travel trends such as increased teleworking and flexibility in travel schedules. Public Engagement and Humor: TSA’s unorthodox approach to social media, using humor and cultural trends to convey travel tips and raise awareness, has significantly improved public perception. Technological Advancements: TSA’s introduction of new technologies like facial recognition and touchless ID aims to streamline the travel experience while maintaining security. Cultural Shift and Morale: Alexa emphasized TSA’s efforts to improve customer experience, fair pay for officers, and employee satisfaction, which has resulted in better service and reduced attrition. Security Stories: The podcast touched on bizarre items travelers attempt to bring through security and the importance of maintaining vigilance against threats. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ X: https://twitter.com/skift Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry.

This special edition of the Skift Travel Podcast looks at Airbnb's future strategic direction and its ambitions to diversify its offerings beyond short-term rentals. Skift CEO Rafat Ali is joined by AirDNA Chief Economist Jamie Lane to discuss Airbnb's plans to create billion-dollar businesses annually, reintroduce and scale experiences, explore new markets, and build innovative services for hosts and guests. They also examine the broader implications of these moves, such as leveraging technology, AI, and trust systems to enhance the platform, while maintaining a focus on customer experience and loyalty. Three Key Takeaways: Diversification Beyond Accommodations: Airbnb aims to launch billion-dollar ventures annually, expanding into services like co-hosting, guest experiences (e.g., in-unit chefs, local experiences), and possibly adjacent sectors like car, plane, or equipment rentals. The company is leveraging its existing trust ecosystem and large user base to scale these initiatives organically. Revamping Experiences and Loyalty Programs: The relaunch of Airbnb Experiences in 2025 will test the company's ability to engage guests with curated, memorable activities while exploring an Amazon Prime-like loyalty model to enhance customer retention through benefits such as discounted fees, gym memberships, and co-working space access. Leveraging Data and AI for Personalization: Airbnb plans to use AI and user profiles to personalize travel recommendations, improve matchmaking between hosts and guests, and potentially offer targeted ads. This could position Airbnb as a central hub for travel and services, analogous to Amazon's dominance in retail. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ X: https://twitter.com/skift Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry.

For this special episode, Sarah Nelson, International President of the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA), sits down with Skift Editor-in-Chief Sarah Kopit to discuss critical issues shaping the aviation industry. From labor rights and union efforts to health, safety, and sustainability, Nelson provides candid insights into the challenges and opportunities facing aviation workers and their unions. She also highlights the changing workforce dynamics, especially with the influx of Gen Z talent, and reflects on the lessons learned from the pandemic. Key Takeaways Union Efforts at Delta Airlines: Despite past unsuccessful attempts to unionize Delta flight attendants, a growing pro-union sentiment among the public and a new wave of Gen Z workers are reinvigorating efforts. Nelson attributes Delta's introduction of boarding pay to union pressure, emphasizing how organizing benefits all workers. Gen Z’s Impact on the Workforce: Nelson acknowledges the unique energy and collaborative spirit Gen Z brings to the workforce. While their focus on collective action is a strength, their lack of experience with aviation's past hardships presents a challenge in building urgency around labor issues. Health and Safety Advocacy: The AFA has played a pivotal role in addressing workplace health and safety issues, including radiation exposure, disrupted circadian rhythms, and extreme cabin temperatures. Nelson emphasizes that these efforts not only protect employees but also enhance passenger experiences. The Pandemic’s Lessons: The pandemic underscored the importance of swift, simple solutions and clear communication. Nelson credits the AFA's proactive approach to safety standards and the Payroll Support Program for helping the industry avoid massive layoffs and ensuring a smoother recovery. Fighting Inequality in Aviation: Nelson highlights the problem of two-tiered employment systems, where regional airline workers often earn significantly less than their mainline counterparts despite performing similar work. She advocates for equal pay and improved working conditions to address attrition and ensure sustainability. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ X: https://twitter.com/skift Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry.

For this week's podcast, host Sarah Kopit is joined by Jane Poynter, a founder of the space tourism company Space Perspective to discuss the next frontier of travel. Kopit recently wrote a feature story about how the industry has developed over the last two decades, as well as where it is now positioned. Highlights of their conversation include: Growth of the Space Economy: The space tourism sector is rapidly expanding, with Space Perspective being part of a larger movement toward space accessibility. Developments such as private space stations, lower launch costs, and increased commercial interest suggest a thriving space economy that could soon become mainstream. Space Tourism through Balloons: Space Perspective, founded by Jane Poynter and Taber MacCallum, is pioneering a unique form of space tourism using high-altitude balloons instead of rockets. This method provides a smooth, slow ascent to the edge of space, offering passengers an experience akin to a luxurious space lounge. Accessibility and Affordability: Space Perspective’s goal is to make space travel accessible and affordable. Their current ticket price of $125,000 is lower than other space tourism options, with plans to reduce costs further in the future. The experience is designed to be as seamless as a plane ride, eliminating the need for intense training. Environmental and Safety Considerations: The balloons are filled with hydrogen, making the flights carbon-neutral. Extensive safety measures include a legacy balloon technology tested by NASA, multiple backup parachute systems, and real-time monitoring by the FAA and Coast Guard. The Impact of Viewing Earth from Space: Poynter emphasized the profound impact of viewing Earth from space, which often shifts people's perspectives and worldviews. Space Perspective hopes that by allowing more people to experience this, it will foster a stronger connection to Earth and inspire positive change. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ X: https://twitter.com/skift Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry.

Airlines Editor Gordon Smith joins Seth to discuss all things airlines. First, the growing prevalence of premium cabins and products in aviation. Secondly, the quiet but noticeable divestment from China by many western airlines, the subject of Gordon's recent feature story "Why Are Airlines Quiet Quitting China?". Key Points Airlines are enhancing brand positioning by investing in premium cabins like first class, business class, and premium economy. Western airlines are quietly reducing their presence in China due to geopolitical and economic pressures, without fully exiting the market. The restriction on using Russian airspace increases operational costs for European airlines flying to China. Summary Airlines are increasingly investing in premium cabins, including first class, business class, and premium economy, to enhance their brand positioning and appeal to high-margin passengers. This move reflects a commitment to long-term enhancements despite the high costs and operational challenges involved. Meanwhile, Western airlines are adopting a 'quiet quitting' approach in China by reducing flight frequencies and cutting routes due to economic and geopolitical pressures, notably the restriction on using Russian airspace, which affects European carriers' operational costs. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ X: https://twitter.com/skift Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry

According to a new Skift Research report on U.S. travel trends, family travel constitutes the largest segment of U.S. leisure travel. The report’s lead author, Skift Research Manager Varsha Arora, joins Seth and Sarah to talk about what it means for the business of travel. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/ X: https://twitter.com/skift Facebook: https://facebook.com/skiftnews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the travel industry