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What if your next startup competitor doesn’t have a single employee?

AI agents aren’t just another software trend — they’re redefining the interface between humans, data, and execution, yet many founders still confuse basic chatbots with the true potential of these agents.

In this episode, Chris and Yaniv are joined by Jeremiah Owyang, General Partner at Blitzscaling Ventures and host of Silicon Valley’s top AI startup event, Llama Lounge. Together, they unpack Jeremiah’s insider thesis on the AI Agent era — and what it means for the future of software, user experience, and startups.

They explore why AI agents are replacing SaaS apps, what defines a “true agent,” and how startups should position themselves in the face of big tech platform risk.

In this episode, you will:

• Understand the difference between LLM tools and autonomous AI agents
• Discover how Crew AI scaled to 60% of the Fortune 500 using 150 agents and minimal staff
• Learn why traditional apps and websites may become obsolete in the agentic future
• Explore new go-to-market strategies and startup models for agent-driven businesses
• Evaluate how agents will access private and public data — and what that means for APIs
• Hear how to pitch agent startups to VCs looking for viral and network-effect plays

Whether you’re building in the agent ecosystem or preparing for it, this conversation will reshape how you think about the future of digital interfaces and startup opportunities.

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Intro Voice: Jeremiah Owyang https://web-strategist.com/

Apple’s WWDC 2025 keynote revealed a lot – just not what you’d expect.

Siri’s long-awaited AI upgrade was quietly delayed, and instead Apple rolled out a grab bag of long-overdue features, flashy design updates, and deep ChatGPT integrations. Is this a bold product reset, or proof that Apple is falling behind?

Meanwhile, Elon Musk and Donald Trump butt heads, Ukraine rewrites warfare with AI-powered drones, and a16z explains how consumer AI startups can finally scale, if they get a few key things right.

In this episode, Chris Saad and Yaniv Bernstein sift through this huge week of tech news, breaking down the topics that really matter for founders and early-stage operators.

In this episode, you will:

• Understand the real implications of Elon Musk and Donald Trump’s public fallout
• Explore how the Musk/Trump feud could fracture the MAGA-tech alliance and reshape Silicon Valley politics
• Learn why Apple is releasing papers criticizing AI reasoning—and what that means for AGI hype
• Assess whether Apple’s WWDC 2025 was a quiet revolution or just a catch-up act
• Discover how Ukraine’s AI-powered drone strike changes the future of war and global defense tech
• Unpack why AI consumer startups now have better monetization paths than ever before

🔗 Full a16z post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/justine-moore_a16z-ai-consumer-apps

From Silicon Valley’s shifting loyalties to the limits of Apple’s AI ambitions, this episode is a masterclass in how tech power is evolving and how to position yourself for it.

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Can consumer tech like Facebook and Oculus really help win wars?

As governments get serious about AI and startups, Silicon Valley is being dragged—sometimes unwillingly—into the global military and geopolitical game.

In this episode, Chris Saad and Yaniv Bernstein unpack how Meta is teaming up with Anduril—the military tech startup founded by Oculus’ Palmer Luckey—to bring XR (Extended Reality) to the battlefield. They also break down how Google might preemptively split itself, how UK civil servants gained 5% productivity with AI tools, and why Europe’s startup scene may finally be waking up.

In this episode, you will:

• Learn how Meta’s AR & VR technology is being integrated into U.S. military operations

• Understand the strategic irony behind Palmer Luckey and Meta partnering again

• Explore the concept of “reverse technology transfer” from consumer tech to defense

• Discover why Google may break itself up before regulators force it

• See how the UK’s use of Microsoft Copilot gave government workers a 5% productivity boost

• Unpack the EU’s new law that lets startups register and begin trading in under 48 hours

• Assess how New York is quietly becoming Silicon Valley’s biggest challenger

Whether you're a founder, operator, or just a curious mind in the startup world, this episode gives you sharp insights into how tech, defense, and regulation are reshaping the startup landscape.

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Are you building a startup strategy—or just making it look like you have one?

Too many founders mistake polished slide decks for actual strategic thinking, leading to misalignment, wasted resources, and failed products.

In this episode, Yaniv Bernstein and Chris Saad are joined by Marcelo Calbucci, former Amazon director and author of The PRFAQ Framework. They dive into how Amazon’s famously effective six-page PRFAQ process forces deep thinking, aligns teams, and drives billion-dollar bets—without a single slide.

They explore why most startups get strategy wrong, how to apply PRFAQs to your own company, and the real difference between outputs and outcomes.

In this episode, you will:

• Discover why PowerPoint-based strategies often lead to shallow thinking and misalignment
• Learn how Amazon's six-page PRFAQ framework drives innovation and clarity
• Understand the structure of a PRFAQ—and why it starts with a future-facing press release
• Explore the critical cultural shifts needed to make frameworks like PRFAQs work
• Compare PRFAQs with OKRs and PRDs—and learn when to use each
• Unpack the process Amazon uses to critique and improve strategy docs in real time
• Hear practical advice on adapting the PRFAQ process to your startup, even as a solo founder

Whether you're pre-launch or scaling fast, this episode gives you a blueprint for thinking deeper and aligning your team.

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What does it mean when OpenAI gives away $6 billion worth of equity just to bring one man on board?

In a world where design, brand, and user experience could determine AI dominance, are startups undervaluing human-centered thinking?

In this episode, Chris and Yaniv unpack OpenAI’s jaw-dropping acquisition of Jony Ive's mysterious startup “io,” and what it means for the future of AI hardware. They also break down Claude 4’s strategic shift toward coding, Klarna’s AI misfire in customer service, and Bitcoin’s stunning return to all-time highs.

In this episode, you will:

• Understand why OpenAI paid $6B for Jony Ive with no product in sight
• Explore how Claude 4 is positioning itself to dominate AI coding workflows
• Learn what Klarna’s AI rollback says about the real limits of LLMs in customer service
• Discover why prompting isn’t just for AIs—and how it applies to human leadership
• Compare deterministic vs probabilistic software—and what that means for your startup stack
• Examine how students using AI tools are reshaping education (and why it’s not all good news)
• Evaluate Bitcoin’s recent surge and whether it’s becoming a lasting store of value

Whether you're building in AI, riding the crypto waves, or figuring out where human judgment still beats automation—this episode is packed with insight from real founders navigating the edge.

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Is Google staging the biggest comeback in tech history? Or are we just getting swept up in the hype?

Founders often underestimate just how fast platform shifts change the rules of the game, and Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI are rewriting the rulebook in real time.

In this episode, Yaniv Bernstein and Chris Saad break down Google’s massive AI showcase at I/O 2025, spotlighting the rollout of Gemini Live, Gmail Smart Replies, and even AI-powered glasses. They also dive into Airbnb’s bold strategy to become the “Amazon for services”—and why it could either revolutionize local work or crash hard. Plus, Microsoft, Nvidia, and OpenAI are all shaping the future of how software will be built in the AI era.

In this episode, you will:

• Understand how Google is integrating AI into its entire product ecosystem—from Search to Android to Gmail
• Learn why Gemini Live and Google’s “AI Mode” could change how consumers interact with the internet
• Explore how Google is personalizing AI by tapping into your email, calendar, and Drive
• Evaluate Airbnb’s ambition to become a services marketplace—and the operational challenges ahead
• See how OpenAI’s Codex, Microsoft’s coding agents, and Windsurf’s SWE1 model are reshaping software engineering
• Discover Nvidia’s clever strategy to absorb chip competition with NVLink Fusion
• Debate whether vibe coding tools or engineer-facing AI agents will define the future of software development

Google’s making a comeback. Airbnb’s making a bold move. And AI tools are now building AI tools.It’s a lot. But we break it down so you know what matters—and what doesn’t.

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Intro Voice: Jeremiah Owyang https://web-strategist.com/

Can AI really design your home? 800,000+ users have already ditched their architects thanks to Maket, a startup using AI to simplify renovations from floorplans to permits.

In this Spotlight episode, Maket founder Patrick Murphy delivers a mock version of the real pitch that secured $2M in funding from top investors including Reid Hoffman’s Blitzscaling Ventures. Maket’s platform uses generative AI to help homeowners and builders create zoning-compliant floorplans, visualize renovations, and streamline the entire design process—all without needing an architect.

We break down what made Maket's pitch so compelling, challenge some of Patrick’s assumptions, and unpack the real-world lessons for other founders pitching complex AI products. Along the way, we discuss the difference between simplifying a process and truly disrupting an industry—and why most tools built 'for professionals' fail to scale.

In this episode, you will:

• Learn how Maket is automating architecture using generative AI
• Hear how Patrick convinced VCs with a story-first pitch
• Understand the strategic value of building a proprietary model
• Explore the pitfalls of targeting industry incumbents too early
• Discover how agent-based UIs are replacing SaaS 2.0
• See why traction and team matter more than early monetization
• Get tactical advice on presenting complex ideas to investors

If you’re building in AI, pitching a vertical SaaS product, or just want a front-row seat to a startup reinventing home design—this one’s for you.

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Intro Voice: Jeremiah Owyang https://web-strategist.com/

What happens when Apple hints that Google’s search dominance may be cracking, triggering a $155 billion wipeout in Alphabet’s value?

Many still think Google search is untouchable, but a shift in user behavior and a few lines in DOJ testimony may signal otherwise.

In this episode, Chris Saad, Yaniv Bernstein, and Amir Shevat explore how Apple’s revelation about declining Safari search traffic could mark a turning point for Google, what’s really behind Trump’s Middle East ‘AI investment tour,’ and how YC’s latest startup wishlist shows where the next wave of disruption will come from.

In this episode, you will:

• Understand why Apple’s testimony may be a warning shot for Google Search
• Learn how AI is reshaping the definition—and monetization—of ‘search’
• Analyze Trump’s Saudi tech tour and its real impact on US innovation
• Evaluate the shift from ad-driven to subscription-based AI business models
• Explore why Y Combinator wants startups to go ‘full stack’ instead of selling to incumbents
• Unpack the risks of shiny-object AI ideas vs. defensible startup models
• Discover which overlooked AI sectors still have white space for new founders

From Google’s search slowdown to Trump’s headline-grabbing AI deals and YC’s startup roadmap, this episode gives you the strategic insight founders need to navigate tech’s shifting landscape.

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Voice: Jeremiah Owyang https://web-strategist.com/

A strong co-founder relationship is crucial for any startup. Learn how to determine the ideal number of founders and understand the distinctions between roles and titles.

Also, Chris and Yaniv explain what you must know about:

• The pros and cons of going solo vs. multiple founders.

• CEOs and Founders and the distinction between roles and responsibilities.

• Considerations on equity splits and vesting schedules.

• Co-CEO conflicts and what to do about them.

• How to manage breakups between founders gracefully when the relationship doesn’t work anymore.

If you’re looking to have an effective founding team, this episode is packed with strong advice from personal experiences from Chris and Yaniv. 

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