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S11-Ep3: How Your Leadership Can Rebalance Society – Solutions from Henry Mintzberg & Jonathan Gosling
Guests: Henry Mintzberg & Jonathan Gosling, Co-Founders of One Planet Leadership
What does it take to rebalance society and change the world?
Easy: you…and your leadership. Although that answer is easy, accomplishing change can be hard. Guests Henry Mintzberg and Jonathan Gosling have studied this for decades, and share both the issues and the solutions for rebalancing society. It may be difficult for us as leaders – humans tend to be comfortable with the status quo – but the very survival of our species could be at stake.
Here's what Henry, Jonathan, and Maureen cover:
- How simple changes in our stock market investing and lead to long-term changes in society;
- The importance of realizing that though we have one planet, we live in many different worlds; and
- The role of regenerative leadership in moving our organizations forward.
Produced in collaboration with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Rebalancing Society: Radical Renewal Beyond Left, Right, or Center with Henry Mintzberg
- To Stop a Tyrant: How Five Types of Followers Make (or Brake) a Toxic Leader with Ira Chaleff
- Leading with Care and Purpose with Raj Sisodia & Sudhanshu Palsule
- Salsa, Soul, & Spirit: Leading Your Multicultural Team with Juana Bordas
- Cultivating Cross-Cultural Leadership: Comparing Americans & Norwegians at Work with Bjorn Ekelund
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
The One Planet Leadership organization founded by Henry and Jonathan as more information on their website: https://www.oneplanetleadership.org.
Henry’s information on rebalancing society is online at https://www.oneplanetleadership.org. There’s more about Henry on his website: https://mintzberg.org. His book on rebalancing society is available as a free PDF download there, or you can buy it as a paperback at https://amzn.to/3CoxaWt.
One of our favorite books from Henry is Bedtime Stories for Managers; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hl6gOb.
The book by Jem Bendell which Jonathan referenced, Breaking Together, is available in paperback at https://amzn.to/4aK8zrI and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/4aK8zrI. The related Deep Adaptation Forum you can participate in is online at https://www.deepadaptation.info/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
- Bedtime Stories for Managers, a collection of short essays from Henry Mintzberg; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hl6gOb, and Kindle at https://amzn.to/3PYmSiX.
- Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
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About Our Guests:
Jonathan Gosling is Emeritus Professor at Exeter University and Founder and Director at Pelumbra. He was co-founder of the One Planet MBA and is Lead Faculty with the Forward Institute in the UK. He co-founded the ‘RoundTables’ programme with Henry Mintzberg in 2006.
Henry Mintzberg is a leading expert on managing, organising and strategy. Author of many books and articles, he co-founded and is a key faculty member of the ‘Roundtables for Experienced Managers’ programme. He’s also an avid collector of beaver sculptures: https://mintzberg.org/sculptures.

S3-Ep1: Salsa, Soul, & Spirit - Leading Your Multicultural Team with Dr. Juana Bordas
Guest: Dr. Juana Bordas
What do leaders lose as DEI falls out of favor? A lot, particularly the richness of multiculturalism.
The value of multicultural perspectives is almost incalculable, according to our guest, Juana Bordas. The benefits are profound for the business, but stretch deep into our communities, too. In this episode, Dr. Bordas shares the principles that set the foundation for cross-cultural leadership from her book Salsa, Soul and Spirit – Leadership for a Multicultural Age.
Produced in partnership with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org .
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Adaptive Leadership & Culture Change with Ron Heifetz
- Leading with Care & Purpose with Raj Sisodia & Sudhanshu Palsule
- The Bonobo Sisterhood: Ape Society’s Lessons for Leaders with Diane Rosenfeld
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re on Instagram, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
Learn more on Juana’s website at https://www.juanabordas.com/. Her book, Salsa, Soul, & Spirit is available in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hn3OGU, or on Kindle at https://amzn.to/40vXIgk.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
She’s also written several award-winning books on leadership development. You can peruse and purchase them here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
- Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Adaptable Support: Jenna Reik & Mike Morrow-Fox
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
Twitter: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guest:
Dr. Juana Bordas is President of Mestiza Leadership International–a company that focuses on leadership, diversity, and organizational change. The first Latina to serve as a faculty for the Center for Creative Leadership (CCL) she taught in the Leadership Development Program–the most highly utilized executive program in the world. As founding President/ CEO of the National Hispana Leadership Institute, the only program in America that prepared Latinas for national leadership, Dr. Bordas forged partnerships with Harvard’s JFK School of Government and CCL to provide training for Hispanic women. Juana received an honorary doctorate from Union University and received the 2019 Life-Time Achievement Award from The International Leadership Association. She is the first Latina honored with this prestigious award which has been received by Warren Bennis, Robert Greenleaf, Peter Drucker, James McGregor Burns, and Margaret Wheatley. Juana was born in Nicaragua, her life work is reflective of the many contributions immigrants have made and continue to make to the US and our world.

S11-Ep2: Cultivating Cross-Cultural Leadership: Comparing Americans & Norwegians at Work
Guest: Bjørn Ekelund
Leading across cultures isn’t easy. Success means very different things depending on where you live. Our guest, Bjørn Ekelund, looks at cross-cultural leadership, including the differences in trust and followership between the U.S. and his native Norway.
In the end, understanding these cultural contexts can lead to true flourishing at work!
Here's what Bjørn and Maureen cover:
- Why people are more important than productivity outside the U.S.;
- How leaders in Norway don’t need to delegate: it’s built into the system; and
- Why Norway has employee-ship instead of followership.
Produced in association with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- The episode Bjørn referenced is Law & Order…and Leadership with Rob Elkington & Les Sylvan
- Leading with Purpose & Compassion in the 4th Industrial Revolution with Eliane Ubalijoro
- When Your Path Is Unclear: Embodied Leadership & Way-Showing with Donna Marie Laskin & Chellie Spiller
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re on TikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
Bjørn’s website has more information on his work and the Diversity Icebreaker tool and assessment at https://diversityicebreaker.com/. His company’s website is https://human-factors.no/; it has more team development tools you can review.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
- To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
- Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guest:
Bjørn Zakarias Ekelund: Norwegian business consultant. Psychologist (1983), Univ. of Oslo, Norway, MBA (1997), Henley Management College, London, UK. Studies in International Management (2006/7), University of Agder, Norway. He has been leading consultant organisations since 1987, at the same time doing extensive consultative work focused on interpersonal interaction, team analysis, innovation and cross-cultural challenges. Since 1993 he has been the principal owner and managing director of Human Factors AS in Norway. He is most known for creating the Diversity Icebreaker – a concept that combines the assessment of cognitive styles with an experiential learning seminar.

S4-Ep8: How Your Personal Practices Make You an Exceptional Leader, According to Kathryn Goldman Schuyler
Guest: Kathryn Goldman Schuyler, Ph.D.
From fostering smiles in the office to mindfulness, your personal practices have a major effect on your team – and your success. In fact, what you do as a person – not just as a leader – can ripple through your organization.
That’s one major takeaway from Dr. Kathryn Goldman Schuyler in this episode. She’s conducted extensive research on “waking up at work” – a greater awareness of workplace systems and how your actions affect them. Having a sense of humor, spending time outdoors, journaling, meditation: they can all boost positivity and morale in your team, and that boosts productivity and engagement in the process.
Here's what Kathryn and Maureen cover:
- How personal practices impact your professional growth and leadership effectiveness;
- The many ways journaling, walking, and “mindful moments” unlock your full potential in the workplace; and
- How to inspire and motivate your team with a sense of humor and generally boosting joy at work.
Produced in association with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Empathy, Dialogue, & a Good Mood: An Ambassador Reveals What Leaders Need in Crisis with Ambassador Thomas Greminger
- Boosting Workplace Well-Being with Cameron Stockdale
- Joy at Work! with Roxanne Brown & Edward Cook
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
Learn more about Kathryn’s work on her website: https://coherentchange.com/.
Kathryn’s book, Creative Social Change: Leadership for a Healthy World is in paperback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/4hdsMZ7.
Her book on leadership and Tibetan Buddhism she referenced is Inner Peace – Global Impact: Tibetan Buddhism, Leadership, and Work. The paperback is available at https://amzn.to/4hamWr8; the Kindle version is https://amzn.to/40wJq0o.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
- Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by David Lanz.
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guest:
Kathryn Goldman Schuyler, Ph.D., is the President of COHERENT CHANGE, as well as Professor Emeritus of Organization Development at Alliant International University, teaching courses in ethics, leadership, and sustainability. She has many years of experience in leadership development, organizational consulting, research, and somatic learning. Over the past fifteen years, she has mentored many graduate students who have completed research under her guidance and moved on in their careers to increasingly influential roles in major companies, start-ups, and universities.
Kathryn has published widely on leadership and change (see the “Resources” section above). Her recent research focuses on awareness and mindfulness at work: her published work in this area highlights how being fully present enhanced participants' connectedness with others and with the natural environment and renewed their sense of purpose in their work.
Kathryn earned her Ph.D. at Columbia University (NY) as a sociologist and has studied with Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais, who developed a sophisticated approach to somatic system learning. In addition to her teaching and research in organization development, she is a somatic educator, helping children and adults with moderate to severe neuro-motor challenges to move, learn, and live fully. She has studied mindfulness and awareness with HH the Dalai Lama, Mingyur Rinpoche, Lama Tharchin Rinpoche, and other masterful teachers of meditation. Kathryn and her husband, a composer, live overlooking San Francisco, a view that encourages them to pause and appreciate gleaming sunsets and foggy mornings, the calls of ravens and the circling of hawks, and the sparkling city lights.

S11-Ep1: To Stop a Tyrant: How Five Types of Followers Make (or Brake) a Toxic Leader
Guest: Ira Chaleff, former executive director of the Congressional Management Foundation
Tyrants can only rise with our help. And they aren’t limited to heads of state. Family heads, corporate CEOs, a town mayor: any leadership role can have tyrannical qualities. As followers, we make them possible.
And we can push them to a better path.
Our guest, Ira Chaleff, studies followership in-depth. He’s identified five categories of followers who play a role in a tyrant’s rise…and how they can change that course.
Here's what Ira and Maureen cover:
- Where you may stand in the follower categories;
- The big differences between dictators and tyrants; and
- What you can do to improve outcomes by understanding the concepts of courageous followership.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- The Dance Between Leadership & Followership with Margaret Heffernan & Ira Chaleff
- Courageous Followership with Neil Grunberg & Ira Chaleff
- They’re Always Watching You: A White House Advisor’s Lessons for Every Leader with Betsy Myers
Produced in conjunction with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/.
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
Ira’s book, To Stop a Tyrant, is available in hardback at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
Learn more about Ira, his other books, and his extensive work at https://irachaleffauthor.com/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
- Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guest:
Ira Chaleff is an author, speaker, and innovative thinker specializing in the dynamics between leaders and followers. He serves as chairman emeritus of the nonpartisan Congressional Management Foundation in Washington, D.C., an organization dedicated to enhancing communication between constituents and their elected representatives.
Chaleff's groundbreaking work, The Courageous Follower: Standing Up to and for Our Leaders, has been published in multiple languages and is utilized globally across educational, corporate, government, and military institutions. He co-edited The Art of Followership: How Great Followers Create Great Leaders and Organizations, part of the esteemed Warren Bennis Leadership Series. His book Intelligent Disobedience: Doing Right When What You're Told to Do Is Wrong explores the roots of obedience and provides guidance on resisting inappropriate orders to achieve ethical outcomes.
As the founder of the Followership Learning Community within the International Leadership Association, Chaleff has been recognized as one of the 100 "Best Minds on Leadership" by Leadership Excellence magazine. He has served on the board of the International Leadership Association and was a visiting leadership scholar at Churchill College, University of Cambridge, England. His ideas on leadership and followership have influenced cultures within the U.S. military, civilian agencies, and international institutions, including the European Union and the British Army.
Chaleff holds a degree in Applied Behavioral Science and is a Board Certified Coach from the Center for Credentialing and Education. He continues to contribute to the global followership community through writing and lecturing from his home in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia.

S10-Bonus: Amplifying Human Potential: How Celliant's CEO Found Purpose & Growth
Guest: Seth Casden, CEO & co-founder of Hologenix
From the high-stress, competitive world of private equity to boosting human potential: Seth Casden had an unusual journey of leadership growth. In this episode, he tells that story – and how he met and partnered with inventor David Horinek to found Hologenix. Their innovative work is focused on amplifying human potential using body-generated energy. He delves into his transition from a rigid leadership style to a servant leadership approach, emphasizing the importance of creating a supportive environment for teams. Seth also discusses the Johari window concept for self-awareness and the importance of flexibility and curiosity in leadership.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Getting Lost in the Language of Leadership with Jonathan Reams
- A Dozen Lessons Learned Running Dunkin’ Donuts with Robert Rosenberg
- Delivering the Future: Why Amazon Execs Lead Beyond Retail with Ryan Redington & Kara Hurst
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
Details about the energy-capturing textile Celliant are https://celliant.com/. For parent company Hologenix, check out https://hologenixllc.com/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI. Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
- Nerve: Lessons on Leadership from Two Women Who Went First by Martha Piper & Indira Samarasekera. Paperback (https://amzn.to/3tOtzg4) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/41OYdT5)
- Jilly Truit murder mysteries by Beverley McLachlin:
- Full Disclosure – https://amzn.to/46TxW6Q (paperback) https://amzn.to/46VDL3Q (audiobook)
- Denial – https://amzn.to/46YCbhs (paperback) https://amzn.to/3GJc0AA (audiobook)
- Women and Leadership: Journey Toward Equity by Sherylle J. Tan & Lisa DeFrank-Cole
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
Twitter: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guest:
Seth Casden is the CEO and co-founder of Hologenix, a materials science company dedicated to developing products that amplify human potential, including its flagship innovation CELLIANT®. In 2021, Hologenix was named to the Inc. 5000 of the fastest-growing privately held companies in the U.S. for the third year in a row. An industry thought leader, triathlete, and world traveler, Casden is a frequent speaker at industry conferences. He has been interviewed by, and authored content for, top-tier media publications such as Forbes, Inc. Magazine, Success, Fast Company, and Thrive Global. Before founding Hologenix in 2002, Casden worked in private equity. He holds a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration from Pepperdine University. His mission is to bring the benefits of infrared into the everyday fabric of our lives and spaces.

S4-Ep12: Geneva Experts Share Why Leadership Is a Group Effort
Guests: Peter Cunningham, Co-founder, & Patrick Sweet, Co-Director, of the Geneva Leadership Alliance
Being a great leader means you can’t lead alone anymore. The leadership paradigm is changing.
In this episode, Maureen speaks with Patrick Sweet and Peter Cunningham from the Geneva Center for Security Policy about the evolving nature of leadership. They explore how leadership is no longer just an individual endeavor, but a collective practice, emphasizing adaptability, cultural sensitivity, and resilience. From navigating post-conflict trauma to balancing polarities like continuity and change, this conversation offers powerful insights for growing your leadership – especially if your firm works across borders.
Here's what Peter, Patrick and Maureen cover:
- Why effective leadership is now collective, shared within your team;
- How our multigenerational and multicultural workforces require greater adaptability in your leadership skills; and
- With today’s social and political divides, the need to navigate opposing “truths,” the find and leverage what your team members (and customers and stakeholders) have in common.
Produced in partnership with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Economic & Geoplitical Shifts: The Trends Leaders Need to Know for 2025 with Christopher Washington
- Empathy, Dialogue, & a Good Mood: An Ambassador Reveals What Leaders Need in Crisis with Thomas Greminger & Peter Cunningham
- Courageous Leadership Is Required to Address Global Issues with Mike Gerbis
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
The Geneva Center for Security Policy’s website is https://www.gcsp.ch/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
- Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
- Nerve: Lessons on Leadership from Two Women Who Went First by Martha Piper & Indira Samarasekera. Paperback (https://amzn.to/3tOtzg4) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/41OYdT5)
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US:
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Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
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About Our Guests:
Peter Cunningham is Head of Leadership at GCSP and Co-Founder of the Geneva Leadership Alliance, a network of associates and partner organisations working together to advance the understanding and practice of leadership for the benefit of peace and security worldwide. Peter has over 20 years of experience in leadership development, adult education, and executive coaching across private, public, and non-profit sectors. He is constantly seeking new, diverse, and innovative ways to bridge the study of leadership with the practice of leading, especially at international level and across cultural, geographical, political and organisational divides. Leveraging his diverse experience and background, he creates safe spaces for learning and encourages brave spaces for application, enabling people to learn leadership mindsets and practices in transformative ways and adapt them to their own work and life.
Patrick Sweet is Co-Director of the Geneva Leadership Alliance. Previously, he was regional director for Northern Europe at the Center for Creative Leadership, responsible for advanced leadership development programs in the region in close collaboration with EMEA CCL teams. He brings 25+ years of business, organisational and leadership development to the Alliance.
Dr. Sweet has been co-lead in several EU-funded programs focused on innovation and leadership, was European Developmental Lead for Korn-Ferry International’s European implementation of leadership assessment tools developed by Dr Sweet’s company, and has coached, consulted, and trained in Talent Management and Leadership Development with international, regional, governmental and non-governmental organisations in Europe for 25+ years; and in the U.S. prior to this. His Ph.D. is in Business Economics from Lund University, Sweden, with doctoral and graduate studies at the University of Southern California and the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.

S10-Ep40: Delivering the Future - Why Amazon Execs Lead Beyond Retail
Guests: Ryan Redington, Amazon Music GM, & Kara Hurst, Chief Sustainability Officer
An open door is an opportunity – and a risk. Assess that risk a little easier with the one-way and two-way door framework. It’s just one of the tools Amazon uses to innovate better and faster.
In this episode, two Amazon execs explain how and why they innovate in areas outside of the company’s stereotypical retail business: in sustainability and in the music industry.The impact has been huge. Over 500 companies have joined Amazon in their climate pledge, moving to clean energy and other sustainable practices. In music, they’re redefining the industry, even discovering new artists such as Chappell Roan!
Here's what Kara, Ryan, and Maureen cover:
- Why seeing an industry outside of its traditions helps you discover new markets and opportunities;
- What the one- and two-way door framework is, and how to use it to spark innovation; and
- Why it’s good business to increase sustainability and climate action.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Innovation Insights: Amazon Executives Share How They Deliver the Future with VPs Udit Madan, Jamil Ghani, & Sarah Rhoads
- How Climate Change Batters Business Bottom Lines with former Prime Minister Kim Campbell
- Stewarding the Future of the Planet: Views from the Boardroom with Helle Bank Jorgensen
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
Detail about the sustainability initiatives Kara mentioned are online at https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/. Businesses interested in working with – or just learning from – Amazon’s sustainability efforts can learn more on the Exchange at https://exchange.aboutamazon.com/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
- Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
Instagram: @innovativeleader
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guests:
Kara Hurst leads Amazon’s sustainability efforts, overseeing the company’s initiatives on environmental sustainability and social responsibility. Under her leadership, Amazon announced its commitment to be net-zero carbon by 2040 and co-founded The Climate Pledge, which now has over 525 signatories. Before joining Amazon, Kara was CEO of The Sustainability Consortium and served as Vice President at BSR, where she led global partnerships and built sustainability programs for businesses. Kara holds a BA from Barnard College of Columbia University and a Master’s in Public Policy from the University of California, Berkeley.
Ryan Redington oversees all aspects of Amazon Music, including strategy, product development, licensing, marketing, and industry relations. He has led the service’s growth into one of the world’s leading audio streaming platforms. Prior to becoming General Manager, Ryan was Vice President of Music Industry, where he led partnerships with artists and labels. Ryan started his Amazon career in the Prime Video division before moving to Amazon Music, where he initially managed the physical music category. Ryan sits on the boards of the Academy of Country Music and the Country Music Association. He holds a BS in Industrial Engineering and a minor in Business Administration from the University of Iowa.

S4-Ep7: 11 Steps to Help You Heal Divides from the Centre for Peace & Security
Guest: Mike Hardy, founder & former director, Coventry University’s Centre for Peace & Security
Is peace relevant to business?
Absolutely, according to Mike Hardy. Profits and stability arise from peacefulness, yet we relegate its pursuit to nonprofit and government leaders. In this episode, Mike shares both his research and diplomatic experience to show how leaders in all sectors can create, and benefit from, peace and security in their communities and around the globe.
Here's what Mike and Maureen cover:
- Why you have just as much of a leadership role in fostering peace and security as any Prime Minister or President;
- How an experience in Iceland brought him to focus on the interplay of trust, peace, and social relations; and
- Why Star Wars provides a perfect model for inclusion and DEI in real life.
Produced in partnership with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Former Prime Minister Papandreou’s Path to a Just World with George Papandreou and Jorrit Volkers
- Empathy, Dialogue, & a Good Mood: An Ambassador Reveals What Leaders Need in Crisis with Thomas Greminger & Peter Cunningham
- Peace through Better Leaders with Mike Hardy
- Work, War, and In-Between: An International Peace Negotiator’s Top Tips for Resoving Conflict with John, Lord Alderdice
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
RESOURCES:
The Center for Trust, Peace and Social Relations, now called the Centre for Peace & Security, is online at https://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/areas-of-research/peace-and-security/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
- Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
- Nerve: Lessons on Leadership from Two Women Who Went First by Martha Piper & Indira Samarasekera. Paperback (https://amzn.to/3tOtzg4) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/41OYdT5)
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
CONNECT WITH US:
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating!
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About Our Guest:
Mike Hardy was the founding Director of the Centre for Trust, Peace, and Social Relations (now the Centre for Peace & Security) at Coventry University. He is adjunct professor of leadership at the LSPR Institute of Communications and Business in Jakarta, Indonesia. Mike has been twice honoured in the UK, awarded the OBE in 2001 for his peace-building work in the Middle East, and appointed a Companion of Honour of St Michael and St George (CMG) in the HM Queen’s Birthday Honours June 2010 for his work internationally in Intercultural Dialogue. Mike is a Board Director and Chair of the International Leadership Association, Chair of Trustees of The Faith and Belief Forum the leading interfaith charity in the UK, and life-fellow of the Royal Society for the Arts.
Bio of Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future
Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future, a podcast presented by the Innovative Leadership Institute. In a world where the pace of change is constantly accelerating, the need for innovative and forward-thinking leadership has never been more crucial. This podcast is designed to equip leaders with the latest insights and ideas to foster innovation, learning, and evolution, enabling them to grow their teams, businesses, and themselves.
Hosted by Maureen Metcalf, each week brings a new interview featuring prominent figures from various fields. From world leaders and executives of global businesses and non-profit organizations to thought leaders and researchers, this podcast offers a diverse range of perspectives that are hard to find elsewhere. The breadth of knowledge and experience shared by the guests provides valuable insights and inspiration for leaders seeking to stay ahead of the curve and make a positive impact.
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