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Episode #235: Invest Smart Takeaways & Behind the Scenes with Joe Fang and Andy Huang

The dust has barely settled on the Invest Smart Summit 2025, curated by Break of Day Capital, and today, fellow colleagues Andy Huang and Joe Fang join Gary to unpack everything that happened in our third major summit (after the first two focused on real estate and asset management). Andy begins the conversation by explaining why he was more excited about his own panel than others before Joe shares some love for Gary and Ryan Kennedy’s presentations. Then, we discuss key takeaways from the Beyond the High, Mastering Money, and Inside the Mind of a Passive Investor panels, and Andy explains the importance of Break of Day Capital’s commitment to reporting and transparency. We also discover from Gary’s three-summit experience what resonates the most with attending investors, and our three hosts dream of their ideal lineup for future summits. To end, we revisit our favorite speakers from 2025, why we believe that this was a successful and well-rounded event, what to look forward to in the next installment, and how to download all recordings of the Invest Smart Summit 2025.

Key Points From This Episode:

Andy Huang explains why he was most excited about his own panel at the Invest Smart Summit.
Joe Fang shares his appreciation for Ryan Kennedy and Gary’s presentations.
Key takeaways from the Beyond the High panel which compared various investment paths.
The power of Excel as seen the Mastering Money panel, moderated by Andy.
Getting ‘Inside the Mind of a Passive Investor’, as moderated by Joe.
Why Andy reveres Break of Day Capital for its consistent reporting and transparency.
After three Invest Smart Summits, Gary explains what resonates most with attendees.
Andy, Gary, and Joe discuss their dream panelists for future summits.
Standout speakers from the Invest Smart Summit 2025.
Gary’s protocol for prepping for interviews with people from different industries.
How to get your Invest Smart Summit recordings and plug into the community.
What to look forward to at the next summit!
Gary’s studio debacle, and our final thoughts on this year’s successful, well-rounded summit.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Invest Smart Summit

Invest Smart on Facebook

The 5 Types of Wealth

Sahil Bloom

Alexis and Dean

Ryan Kennedy on LinkedIn

Laurel Mintz on LinkedIn

Eric Pan on LinkedIn

Kaaren Hall on LinkedIn

Aleksey Chernobelskiy on LinkedIn

Jim Pfeifer on LinkedIn

Jeremy Roll on LinkedIn

Ray Dalio on LinkedIn

Warren Buffett | Berkshire Hathaway

Peter Attia

Raoul Pal on LinkedIn

Jared Dillian

Kathy Fettke

Episode #233: Joseph Shalaby: Running A Mortgage Company

Many first-time investors assume they need a 20% down payment to get started, but that’s not the case! Joining us to break it all down is Joseph Shalaby, founder and CEO of E Mortgage Capital, a national brokerage supporting nearly 900 loan officers across 48 states. He sits down with host Gary Lipsky to discuss the business model behind EMC’s success, key mortgage lessons for investors and loan officers, and financing options that make it easier to purchase your first property. Joseph outlines his three pillars for building a thriving mortgage business (service, community, and relationships) and explains how strong operational support allows loan officers to focus on what they do best. He also shares practical strategies for staying top of mind with clients and dispels common myths around income and loan requirements. To hear the full scope of his approach to business, sales, and navigating real estate finance, be sure to tune in!

Key Points From This Episode:

Introducing Joseph Shalaby, founder and CEO of E Mortgage Capital (EMC).
How E Mortgage Capital helps loan officers build their own businesses.
The full-service ecosystem that supports EMC loan officers nationwide.
Why strong operational support keeps loan officers focused on sales.
The importance of finding partners who complement your strengths.
EMC’s three pillars of success: service, community, and relationships.
Joseph’s client engagement strategies for staying top of mind.
Common myths about mortgage requirements for new investors.
Why you don’t need a 20% down payment to buy your first investment property.
Alternative qualification options, like bank statements and DSCR loans.
Reflections from Joseph on the importance of early tech adoption.
How rapid delegation helps him implement new ideas efficiently.
Where to learn more about Joseph and E Mortgage Capital.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Joseph Shalaby
Joseph Shalaby on LinkedIn

Joseph Shalaby on X
Joseph Shalaby Instagram
Joseph Shalaby TikTok
Joseph Shalaby YouTube

Joseph Shalaby Snapchat

E Mortgage Capital

Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby
Asset Management Mastery Facebook Group

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram

Invest Smart Summit
Invest Smart: Spotting Red Flags in Real Estate Syndications
Sahil Bloom
The 5 Types of Wealth
Tim Storey

Episode #232: Invest Smarter

Too many high earners look successful on paper but still feel stuck when it comes to building lasting wealth. In this special episode, host Gary Lipsky steps into the guest seat as his daughter, Arielle Lipsky, takes the mic to interview him about the upcoming Invest Smart Summit. Designed for busy professionals, this free virtual event brings together top minds in real estate, business, and personal development, including Sahil Bloom, Tim Storey, and Tom Wheelwright. In today’s conversation, Gary shares how the summit explores not just financial growth, but also health, mindset, and emotional resilience. Discover who the summit is designed for and why it’s not a sales pitch, just honest, practical advice from experts. Gary also previews a few standout sessions, including insights from his bestselling book Invest Smart on spotting red flags in syndications. Join us for a behind-the-scenes look at the Invest Smart Summit!

Key Points From This Episode:

An overview of the upcoming Invest Smart Summit and its speakers.
The summit’s focus on building multidimensional wealth, not just real estate investments.
What to expect: real advice from experts instead of sales pitches or upsells.
Who the summit is designed for and why accessibility is a priority.
How attendees can register for free and access recordings if needed.
A preview of Sahil Bloom’s session with lessons from his bestseller, The 5 Types of Wealth.
What to expect from Tim Storey’s talk on resilience and mindset.
How Tom Wheelwright simplifies advanced tax strategies.
A look at Gary’s session on red flags in real estate syndications.
Other topics covered, including health, mindset, and legal guidance.
Where listeners can go to register and view the full speaker lineup.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Tom Wheelwright
Kathy Fettke
Asset Management Mastery Facebook Group

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram

Episode 5: Marketing with Neal Bawa

Episode #231: Neal Bawa: AI Masterclass for Real Estate

AI is rapidly becoming an essential tool across industries, but for real estate and asset management, it’s no longer optional. In his fourth appearance on the podcast, Neal Bawa returns to deliver a powerful masterclass on AI in real estate. Neal is the CEO and Founder/Cofounder of Grocapitus, Multifamily University, and Mission10K. Known as “the Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” his insights have helped him build an asset portfolio nearing $1 billion. Neal begins by reintroducing himself before diving into best practices for using AI in real estate. He explains how ChatGPT supports his developments and investment strategies, why AI excels at recommendations and comparisons, and how machine learning can save both time and money. He also shares tips on making AI tools more effective in the workplace. You’ll learn why AI is indispensable for real estate professionals, how to leverage ChatGPT’s “deep research” feature, and how AI can identify potential vulnerabilities to avoid legal issues. Neal also reveals how he uses AI for market research and which data sets he inputs to get the best results from ChatGPT. Tune in to find out how AI is transforming real estate (and how you can stay ahead of the curve)!

Key Points From This Episode:

AI in real estate, plus best practices for maximization.
Why you should be using AI in everything you do.
How Neal’s ChatGPT Absorption Metric informs new developments and investments.
The joys of leaning on AI for recommendations and why it’s best for making comparisons.
Ways to make AI fun and rewarding for everyone at work.
Becoming an AI master, saving valuable time, and the power of “deep research.”
How AI can help identify vulnerabilities in contracts and agreements, minimizing legal costs.
The data sets Neal and his team feed ChatGPT to get the best results.
How AI fuels his market research.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Neal Bawa on LinkedIn

Neal Bawa on Instagram

Neal Bawa on Facebook

Neal Bawa on YouTube

Grocapitus

Multifamily University

Mission10K

Episode 116: Boosting Net Operating Income with PropTech with Neal Bawa

Episode 185: Neal Bawa – Less Distress

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram

Ben Reinberg on Instagram

Episode #230: Ben Reinberg – Hard Assets for Hard Times

Hard assets are time-proven as one of the best ways to build sustaining wealth. Joining us today is Ben Reinberg, the CEO of Alliance Consolidated Group of Companies and author of Hard Assets and Hard Money for Hard Times. We begin with Ben’s background and journey into real estate before diving into what he thinks about the current state of the real estate market. Then, we discover the dangers of chasing big deals when you’re not yet ready to hold them, the roles of resilience, persistence, and self-care in profitable real estate investing, why you need to surround yourself with top talent, and how to go about it, and the way Ben and his team adopt AI at work. To end, we unpack the many lessons that can be found in Ben’s new book, and our guest reminds us why hard assets are the best investments if you’re trying to build wealth.

Key Points From This Episode:

Ben Reinberg describes who he is and what he does.
His thoughts on the current state of the real estate market and why we all need to be patient.
The dangers of chasing big deals when you aren’t ready to hold them.
Why resilience, persistence, and self-care are vital for real estate investing.
How to attract amazing talent into your life and resource pool.
The way Ben and his team lean on AI at work.
Unpacking the lessons of his latest book, Hard Assets and Hard Money for Hard Times.
A reminder of why hard assets are the best way to build wealth.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Ben Reinberg

Ben Reinberg on LinkedIn

Ben Reinberg on X

Ben Reinberg on Facebook

Ben Reinberg on YouTube

Ben Reinberg on TikTok

Alliance Consolidated Group of Companies

Alliance Academy

Hard Assets and Hard Money for Hard Times

I Own It with Ben Reinberg

Invest Smart Summit

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram

Aleksey Chernobelskiy on LinkedIn

Episode #229: Aleksey Chernobelskiy: What to Know as a Limited Partner

What does it mean to vet a real estate deal as a limited partner? In this episode of The Real Estate Investor Podcast, host Gary Lipsky welcomes Aleksey Chernobelskiy, Principal at Centrio Capital Partners and Founder of GP-LP Match. Aleksey previously ran Store Capital’s lucrative real estate portfolio and underwriting team before shifting his focus to educating and advocating for limited partners (LPs). Through his daily posts, newsletter, and investing partner platform, he helps LPs avoid costly mistakes and spot opportunities others miss. During the conversation, Aleksey explains the difference between REITs and funds and how return profiles compare across REITs, funds, and syndications. Discover why the Internal Rate of Return (IRR) metric is flawed, Aleksey’s “three pillars” of LP investing, why investors should vet General Partners (GPs), and the biggest mistakes to avoid. Join Gary and Aleksey to learn why downside risk matters, what distorts deal projections, and why honesty, not perfection, builds investor trust. Tune in now!

Key Points From This Episode:

Background about Aleksey and how he helps LPs evaluate real estate deals.
Hear what got him interested in educating LPs to make better investment decisions.
The difference between a Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) and a real estate fund.
Find out how return profiles compare across REITs, funds, and syndications.
Issues with the Internal Rate of Return (IRR) metric and why it should be avoided.
Discover Aleksey’s “three pillars” of LP investing and what makes it effective.
Learn why educating yourself (or sitting out) is better than gambling on a deal.
Unpack the biggest and most common mistakes Aleksey sees from both GPs and LPs.
How to approach capital calls and why your best investors are your existing ones.
Explore what is often missing from investment decks and what to include instead.
Aleksey’s key advice for LPs: study 100 deals and trust the reps.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Aleksey Chernobelskiy on X

Centrio Capital Partners

GP-LP Match

Limited Partner (LP) Investing Lessons Newsletter

‘10 reasons why deal flow rules the world’

Invest Smart

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram

Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow | Mobile Home Park

Episode #228: Kevin Bupp: MHP's and Parking Lots

Open land rarely garners the same attention as developed properties due to their perceived value discrepancies. But as today’s guest, Kevin Bupp explains, there are many ways to generate significant income from open spaces like mobile home parks and parking lots. Kevin is a seasoned commercial real estate investor, a top podcast host, and author of The Cash Flow Investor, a practical step-by-step framework for creating financial freedom by investing in commercial real estate. Kevin begins our conversation by explaining who he is, what he does, and how he got into the world of real estate. Then, we discover what piqued his interest in mobile home parks, how he invested before stumbling upon this revenue stream, the challenges he’s overcome and lessons learned since and because of The Great Recession, and the importance of discipline and planning for the worst when entering new investments or developments. To end, we unpack parking lots and why this is a crucial business model to take note of, and we explore why seasoned real estate professionals appreciate the value of longer holds.

Key Points From This Episode:

Kevin Bupp explains who he is, what he does, and how he got into real estate.
Understanding what drew him to mobile home parks and how he invested before this venture.
The lessons he learned from The Great Recession of 2008.
Challenges he and his company have faced and ultimately, overcome.
The power of discipline, planning for the worst, and being secure in real estate fundamentals.
Parking lots: Why this relatively underexplored business model deserves a second look.
How real estate experience reveals the value of longer holds.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Kevin Bupp

Kevin Bupp on LinkedIn

Kevin Bupp on Instagram

Kevin Bupp on Facebook

Kevin Bupp on YouTube

The Cash Flow Investor

‘The Passive Investors Guide to Parking Lot Profits’

Sunrise Capital Investors

Invest with Sunrise Capital Investors

Brian Spear on LinkedIn

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram

Invest Smart: Spotting Red Flags in Real Estate Syndications

Episode #227: Joe Fang: Navigating Uncertain Times

Uncertainty in the real estate market can create both risk and opportunity. Long-term success belongs to those who know how to navigate it wisely! In this episode, we welcome back investor, macroeconomics expert, and Director of Investor Relations at Break of Day Capital, Joseph Fang, to break down key market trends, interest rate predictions, and investment strategies that matter right now. Gary and Joe discuss their recent acquisition of Icon on Headley, the importance of strategic staffing and property synergies, and how macroeconomic forces (like tariffs and inflation) impact real estate. Joe also shares his insights on interest rate trends and why he believes rates will begin to drop in 2025. For a deeper understanding of market shifts and how to position yourself for success in an unpredictable economy, don’t miss this thought-provoking conversation with Joe Fang!

Key Points From This Episode:

Insight into a recent acquisition: Icon on Headley and its strategic benefits.
How sister properties create cost savings and efficiency.
The state of the multifamily real estate market and deal flow trends.
Interest rate trends: why Joe predicts rates will drop in the second half of the year.
The real impact of tariffs on real estate and material costs.
Strategies for increasing NOI through operational efficiencies.
Choosing the right type of financing and structuring deals effectively.
Lessons from market volatility: avoiding overleveraging and maintaining liquidity.
Why institutional investors are preparing to jump back into real estate.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Break of Day Capital
Break of Day Capital Instagram