SaaS Nordic

"SaaS Nordic" is a podcast hosted by Daniel Nackovski.

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196. Ines Lourenço, VP of Product Growth, Usercentrics. Growth = Product Distribution: How Usercentrics Hit €100M ARR with Activation-First Pods

196. Ines Lourenço, VP of Product Growth, Usercentrics. Growth = Product Distribution: How Usercentrics Hit €100M ARR with Activation-First Pods

In this episode, we’re joined by Inês Lourenco, VP of Growth at Usercentrics, the privacy-led MarTech company that is powering consent on 2M+ websites & apps across 200 countries for 600k customers. 

Inês unpacks how she built a 50-person growth org of cross-functional pods (Monetization & Pricing, Acquisition & Virality, Activation, Partner Experience, CMS Integrations, and Retention) around a simple thesis: growth = product distribution. She details the early, scrappy phase with manual signal detection, nightly queries, and “product specialist” outreach - through to a scalable system that routes users to self-serve, low-touch, or high-touch paths based on predicted AOV, with a hard-earned lesson to start with activation before everything else.

We spoke with Inês about turning signals into revenue, structuring pods, and creating an operating cadence where every pod owns its metric such as ARPA growth, NRR/GRR, activation time, and virality share, while collaborating tightly with Product, Marketing, Sales, and CS. 

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you define growth as product distribution and design pods that actually move revenue, not vanity metrics?
  • What signals predict AOV early, and how do you route users to self-serve vs. low/high-touch experiences accordingly?
  • Why did “product specialist” outreach outperform SDR-style messaging, and how do you structure those “baby-step” nudges?
  • If you’re starting from scratch, why begin with an Activation pod and what are the first experiments to run?
  • How do you set pod-level metrics (ARPA growth, activation time, virality share, NRR/GRR) and avoid cross-metric collateral damage?
  • What collaboration model keeps Growth aligned with Product, Marketing, Sales, and CS, and who should Growth report to?
  • When shouldn’t you build a growth team (and what to do instead if your top of funnel is small)?
  • How do you evolve from consent management to a privacy-led marketing platform, while staying profitable and fast?

🎧 Tune in to learn how Inês turned signals into a system, building a growth engine that’s rigorous, cross-functional, and activation-first, proving that modern growth isn’t a channel, it’s product distribution by design.

195. Peter Sunna, CPO, Kognic – How We Win: Why Kognic’s CPO Ditched the Roadmap for a Strategy That Actually Aligns Teams

195. Peter Sunna, CPO, Kognic – How We Win: Why Kognic’s CPO Ditched the Roadmap for a Strategy That Actually Aligns Teams

In this episode, we’re joined by Peter Sunna (ex-Contentful, Commercetools), now leading product at Kognic, an annotation platform that helps cars “see” via camera & LiDAR for ADAS and autonomous driving. Peter shares why he downplays traditional roadmaps in favor of a company-wide “How We Win” operating system, aligning teams on target segment, differentiation, and the strategic power to compound.

We dive into the automotive software shift, safety-critical AI, and how to build defensibility when AI keeps redefining what’s feasible, sometimes in months. Peter explains how to keep Sales, Product, Marketing, and CS selling and building the same thing so strategy drives the plan, not a feature laundry list.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you replace feature roadmaps with a "How We Win" system that aligns every team and still tells customers what matters next?

  • What does differentiation look like in practice and which power are you compounding (process, network effects, brand, switching costs, etc.)?

  • When you’re early and have no moat, how do you use counter-positioning and when do you evolve to a more durable power?

  • Depth vs. breadth: should you go deeper on a few use cases or widen to adjacent ones, and how do you decide?

  • How do you sell a new workflow into enterprises (crossing the chasm) when existing org structures resist change?

  • With AI rapidly changing what’s feasible, how do you plan, defend your margins, and avoid being automated away?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Peter turns strategy into an everyday operating cadence proving that in B2B, roadmaps don’t win markets; clarity on how you win does.

194. Frida Ahrenby, CMO, Rillion – From Zero to 10: How Frida Ahrenby Built a Lean, High-Output Marketing Team at Rillion

194. Frida Ahrenby, CMO, Rillion – From Zero to 10: How Frida Ahrenby Built a Lean, High-Output Marketing Team at Rillion

In this episode, we’re joined by Frida Ahrenby, CMO at Rillion, the AP automation platform expanding aggressively in the US with a new Austin hub. Frida breaks down how she rebuilt marketing from zero to a lean, 10-person, high-output team, starting with a performance+ops backbone, overhauling content/SEO, and leaning hard into field marketing for CFO buyers, while keeping creativity human in an AI-accelerated org.

We spoke with Frida about sequencing the first hires, structuring around three pods (Demand Gen incl. Field, Brand/Content/Design, Product & Customer Marketing), and using AI to multiply output without outsourcing originality. She shares how to avoid silos and title inflation, decide what must be owned in-house to truly own the number, and what it really takes to crack the US market from a European base.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you build a lean, unsiloed marketing org that still scales output (and keeps standards high) with AI in the mix?

  • What’s the exact hiring sequence from a blank slate: why start with performance/ops, then content/SEO, then expand demand?

  • Own it in-house or outsource? A simple rule for speed, agility, and true metric ownership and when agencies still help.

  • Which marketing roles will compress vs. which remain decisively human in the AI era?

  • What skills win now: how to hire for smart, analytical, creative demand gen, and deeply curious content that drives revenue?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Frida designed a tighter, faster marketing engine and why cracking the US is a marathon you run with data, creativity, and relentless focus, not headcount.

193. Barbara Matthews, Chief People Officer, Remote - Goodbye 6-Week Reviews. Hello 48 Hours. The Playbook for Modern Performance Reviews: Fast, Fair, and Scalable

193. Barbara Matthews, Chief People Officer, Remote - Goodbye 6-Week Reviews. Hello 48 Hours. The Playbook for Modern Performance Reviews: Fast, Fair, and Scalable

In this episode, we’re joined by Barbara Matthews, Chief People Officer at Remote, the Series C company with 1800 employees across 85 countries building an end-to-end global HR platform. Barbara shares how her team compressed a 6–8 week performance cycle into 48 hours using monthly manager “trend” nudges, lightweight pre-calibration, and AI-generated self/manager summaries, while scaling a transparent, high-performance culture in a fully async org.

We spoke with Barbara about designing performance to be continuous, objective, and fast, and how you can align leaders on what “good” vs. “great” looks like, avoid surprises for employees, and turn HR from a slow ritual into a real-time operating system.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you build a high-performance culture (with transparency) across 85 countries without burning people out?
  • What does it take to shrink performance reviews to 48 hours, and what’s the exact sequence from self-assessments to calibrations, promos, and comp?
  • How do monthly nudges and a simple 5-point trend score improve alignment and reduce end-of-cycle thrash?
  • Where does AI add the most value in performance, and where should humans stay firmly in the loop?
  • What is pre-calibration, and how do you align managers on role expectations so ratings are fair and consistent?
  • How do you keep feedback truly continuous in an async environment - training managers, closing loops, and avoiding “annual surprise” syndrome?
  • When promotions aren’t available, what retention levers can be used to keep top talent engaged and growing?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Barbara re-engineered performance for speed and clarity, proving that modern people ops is a product you design, not a form you fill.

192. Ruan Smit, Senior SEO Specialist, Sendcloud - From SEO to GEO: How to Win Visibility in the Age of AI Search!

192. Ruan Smit, Senior SEO Specialist, Sendcloud - From SEO to GEO: How to Win Visibility in the Age of AI Search!

In this episode, we’re joined by Ruan Smit, SEO & Growth leader at Sendcloud, the leading shipping platform helping 30,000+ e-commerce brands connect carriers, print labels, and turn delivery into a competitive advantage. With a blend of technical SEO, AI know-how, and real-world growth experience across agencies, e-commerce, and SaaS, Ruan shares what actually moves the needle when AI is rewriting search.

We spoke with Ruan about how to gain visibility when AI Overviews and LLMs answer first, and how Sendcloud structures content, tech, and brand citations to appear where customers look—without losing focus on the pages that drive revenue.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you prioritize GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) without sacrificing the SEO “money pages” that pay the bills?
  • What specific page structures (summaries, headings, FAQs, schema) increase your chances of appearing in Google’s AI Overview?
  • Where should teams invest to earn brand citations LLMs trust, and how do you do it without sounding salesy?
  • When does domain consolidation outperform country-by-country sites, and what are the must-do steps for clean migrations and 301s?
  • How do you track performance in a zero-click world—what proxies (impressions, BOFU outcomes, referrers) matter most?
  • What’s the practical workflow for “reverse-engineering” AI Overviews to refresh content that actually ranks and converts?
  • Are videos still worth it for discovery, and why is hosting on YouTube more important than ever for LLM sourcing?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Ruan blends solid SEO fundamentals with GEO tactics, proving that sustainable growth in the AI era comes from clear structure, smart measurement, and showing up helpfully wherever your buyers look.

191. Lukas Saari, CEO & Co-Founder, Tandem Health - SaaS isn’t just about technology, but about truly understanding the people you serve!

191. Lukas Saari, CEO & Co-Founder, Tandem Health - SaaS isn’t just about technology, but about truly understanding the people you serve!

In this episode, we’re joined by Lukas Saari, CEO and Co-Founder of Tandem Health, the AI-driven platform transforming how clinicians and healthcare teams work together to deliver better patient outcomes. By combining customer obsession with advanced automation, Tandem Health empowers providers to streamline workflows, reduce administrative burden, and keep the human touch at the center of care.

We spoke with Lukas about how AI is reshaping one of the most traditional industries and how Tandem Health has built trust with customers by deeply understanding their real-world pain points.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you build trust with customers in industries where credibility and experience matter most?

  • Why should commercial and product teams include people who’ve actually lived their customers’ pain points?

  • How does every new onboarding experience fuel product innovation?

  • What role does deep customer understanding play in deciding where to take the product next?

  • Why must SaaS founders think in terms of “jobs to be done” rather than features, and how does that mindset unlock customer value?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Lukas combines customer empathy, sharp execution, and a forward-looking approach to AI adoption, proving that scaling in SaaS isn’t just about technology, but about truly understanding the people you serve.

190. Marili 't Hooft - Bolle, CEO, Trengo - Leading with AI: How Trengo’s CEO Future-Proofs Teams and Culture

190. Marili 't Hooft - Bolle, CEO, Trengo - Leading with AI: How Trengo’s CEO Future-Proofs Teams and Culture

In this episode, we’re joined by Marili 't Hooft-Bolle, CEO, Trengo, the AI-powered omnichannel customer engagement platform that unifies messaging across email, WhatsApp, live chat, social media, and more into a single shared inbox, helping teams automate repetitive tasks while preserving the human touch. Trusted by thousands of businesses worldwide, it empowers brands to deliver seamless, delightful customer interactions across every channel.

We spoke with Marili about how AI is changing the way they operate at Trengo - and how it has led to a future-proof mentality across the business in everything they do.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you, as a CEO, drive AI adoption across the teams in their daily operations?
  • Why you may need to "update" your cultural and performance values to support the new AI era for operators?
  • What is the process to make sure new AI initiatives are focused on must-haves vs nice-to-haves?
  • How does she see the roles of product, engineering, and marketing need to adjust in this new era to fully leverage AI?
  • Why does she encourage everyone to be ready to dedicate some "learning money" on their journey to find the best AI leverage for their business?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Marili combines empathy, discipline, and sharp business acumen to guide her team through the reality of scaling in a rapidly evolving tech environment, proving that great companies are built not just on strategy, but on people who grow with intention.

189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

In this episode, we’re joined by Sander van Gelderen, CMO at Effectory, an employee listening solution platform helping organizations measure and improve engagement, enablement, and productivity at scale, serving 700+ recurring customers across the Benelux, DACH, and now the Nordics.

We spoke with Sander about how Effectory transformed from a project-based consultancy into a recurring revenue SaaS business and how his team is reshaping their go-to-market motion through Account-Based Experience (ABX). The goal? Closing the gap between marketing and sales, reducing waste, and targeting only the accounts truly in-market.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • What is ABX and how does it differ from ABM in practice?

  • How do you unify marketing and sales targeting to remove friction?

  • What were the warning signs that the traditional MQL model wasn’t working?

  • How do you implement ABX without losing velocity or your team’s trust?

  • What process and tech changes are required to make ABX work?

  • How should marketing compensation evolve in an ABX world?

  • What are the real trade-offs and pitfalls no one talks about?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Sander and his team are aligning people, process, and technology, proving that better targeting isn’t just possible, it’s essential for sustainable growth.

188. Charles Tenot, CEO, Lemlist - How to Build an Efficient Executive Team

188. Charles Tenot, CEO, Lemlist - How to Build an Efficient Executive Team

In this episode, we’re joined by Charles Tenot, CEO of Lemlist - the bootstrapped sales engagement platform scaling past €36M ARR while staying lean, profitable, and fast-moving. Charles took the reins to help Lemlist break through a growth plateau, and under his leadership, the company has nearly tripled ARR and built a truly efficient, remote-first team of 110.

We spoke with Charles about what it really takes to build a high-performing executive team in today’s world of constant change and why being “close to the craft” might be the ultimate leadership advantage.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • What defines a truly efficient executive team, and why do most companies get it wrong?

  • Why is “disagree and commit” the wrong mindset at the C-level?

  • How can CEOs avoid building silos across product, marketing, and sales?

  • What red flags should you watch for when hiring experienced leaders?

  • How do you bring execs back to the craft without micromanaging?

  • Why does Charles prefer to hire all C-levels himself, and how does he do it?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Charles is reshaping SaaS leadership at Lemlist, proving you can scale fast without breaking what made you great to begin with.

Bio of SaaS Nordic

"SaaS Nordic" is a podcast hosted by Daniel Nackovski, Vice President of Sales at inRiver, and Thomas Sjöberg, Director of Strategic Alliances at Apptus. The show focuses on uncovering the secret sauce behind the most successful Nordic SaaS (Software-as-a-Service) companies and their journey to achieving global success.

The podcast provides valuable insights by interviewing founders and leaders of prominent Nordic SaaS companies. Listeners can learn from their GoTo-Market strategies, scaling techniques, team-building approaches, and product development strategies. Whether you're a SaaS founder or leader, the show aims to provide tips, tricks, and hands-on advice from the best in the industry.

The discussions on "SaaS Nordic" are direct, informal, and to the point, ensuring that listeners receive practical and actionable guidance. Daniel Nackovski and Thomas Sjöberg, both experienced SaaS professionals, bring their expertise to the show, sharing their knowledge and facilitating insightful conversations with the guests.

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