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Ep. 279 - Security Awareness Series - Dodging Turkeys and Security Awareness with Stacey Edmonds REPLAY

Ep. 279 - Security Awareness Series - Dodging Turkeys and Security Awareness with Stacey Edmonds REPLAY

REPLAY (Original Air Date Oct 21, 2024)

 

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Stacey Edmonds. Stacey is a multi-disciplinary EdTech innovator and Digital Safety Pioneer, driven by a commitment to democratizing knowledge.

Stacey's expertise, encompassing social science, education, EdTech, and multi-platform screen production, culminated in the founding of Lively, which we will hear all about on this podcast.

Since 2002, Stacey has been designing and delivering enterprise-wide cyber safety upskilling programs.

In 2023, embodying her mission to make knowledge accessible, Stacey launched 'Dodgy or Not?' – a social enterprise offering an engaging approach to digital safety education.

 

She continues to bridge the gap between emerging technologies and practical education, driving innovation in AI ethics and digital literacy - she is also known for deepfaking herself.

[Oct 21, 2024]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - Intro Links:

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                               

03:00 - Stacey Edmonds Intro

04:18 - Teaching, Trains & Turkeys

08:43 - Toilets vs Videos

11:16 - Dodgy or Not?

15:15 - Social Engineering for Good!

17:46 - Pause for the Cause

20:17 - Training in Real Time

24:11 - Real Time Threat Detection

27:49 - Culture is Everything

30:33 - Find Stacey Edmonds online

-          LinkedIn: in/staceyedmonds/

31:28 – Mentors

-          Carolyn Breeze

-          Chris Hadnagy

-          Janine Thompson

-          Steve Rowe

-          Shane Bell

33:58 - Book Recommendations

-          Feel The Fear and Do It Anyway - Susan Jeffers

-          The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams

-          1984 - George Orwell

-          Man-Made – Tracey Spicer

35:51 - Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 308 - Human Element Series - Finding Common Ground With Lonnie Marts

Ep. 308 - Human Element Series - Finding Common Ground With Lonnie Marts

Today we are joined by Lonnie Marts. Lonnie is an American creator, entertainer, and host known for his magnetic charm and comedic storytelling. His unique ability to engage audiences has catapulted him to digital stardom, with nearly 3 million highly engaged fans tuning in daily for his comedic skits and feel-good content on social media.

 

A graduate of Embry-Riddle with an MBA, Lonnie’s impact goes beyond content creation. He’s been featured in “Forbes” and “Rolling Stone” and recently earned recognition for his work in DoorDash’s Cannes Award-winning Super Bowl campaign.

 

Lonnie continues to expand his reach and has received recognition for his work as a speaker and thought leader, representing major social platforms like TikTok, and Meta on stages like VidCon, and AdWeek. [June 9, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:16 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                               

01:36 - Lonnie Marts Intro

03:21 - Attention-Seeking Behavior

05:17 - Don't Tell Mom!

07:47 - From the Super Bowl to Waffle House

11:07 - Building a Community

16:00 - Finding Common Ground

17:59 - Making it Count!

21:31 - People Need People

24:56 - A Tool to Use

27:22 - Mentors

-          Parents

-          Richard Thorpe Jr

-          Gary Vaynerchuk

-          Mitzi Gaitan

29:26 - Book Recommendations

-          Why Nations Fail - Daron Acemoglu, James A. Robinson

-          The Inheritance Cycle - Christopher Paolini

-          A Promised Land - Barack Obama

-          Rich Dad Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki

32:16 - Find Lonnie Marts Online

-          Website: https://lonnieiiv.com/

-          TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lonnieiiv

-          Facebook: https://facebook.com/Lonnieiiv

-          Snapchat: https://snapchat.com/add/Lonnieiiv

-          YouTube: https://snapchat.com/add/Lonnieiiv

-          LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lonniemarts3/

-          Instagram: https://instagram.com/lonnieiiv

33:00 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 307 - The Doctor Is In Series - Why is the Road to Self-Betterment So Lonely

Ep. 307 - The Doctor Is In Series - Why is the Road to Self-Betterment So Lonely

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

 

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing why change can feel so lonely? They will talk about what triggers growth in people, the amount a person can actually change and how loneliness plays a role in this growth. [June 2, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:47 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

01:06 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                

02:23 - Dr. Abbie Announcement

03:30 - The Topic of the Day: The Lonely Chapter

04:38 - Triggering Change

06:00 - People Don't Change?

11:30 - All Change Isn't Growth

13:15 - Why Growth Can Be Lonely

15:56 - What About Love?

17:16 - New You, Who Dis?

21:19 - Feelings Can REALLY Hurt!

22:15 - Choosing Who You Are

24:36 - Syncing Up

27:43 - A Constant Evolution

30:17 - Search For Meaning

32:31 - Making Connections

33:12 - Wrap Up

33:56 - Next Month: Love At First Sight

34:42 - Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

 

Find us online:

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd

-          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

 

 

References:

Eisenberger, N. I., Lieberman, M. D., & Williams, K. D. (2003). Does rejection hurt? An fMRI study of social exclusion. Science, 302(5643), 290–292. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.1089134

Ebaugh, H. R. F. (1988). Becoming an ex: The process of role exit. University of Chicago Press.

Festinger, L. (1957). A theory of cognitive dissonance. Stanford University Press.

Frankl, V. E. (1963). Man’s search for meaning: An introduction to logotherapy. Beacon Press.

Higgins, E. T. (1987). Self-discrepancy: A theory relating self and affect. Psychological Review, 94(3), 319–340. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-295X.94.3.319

Mass, M. (1991). The theory of "identity dissonance": Mass. Dissertation Abstracts International, 52(1), 577B.

Sandstrom, G. M., & Dunn, E. W. (2014). Social interactions and well-being: The surprising power of weak ties. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 40(7), 910–922. https://doi.org/10.1177/0146167214529799

Uvnäs-Moberg, K., Arn, I., & Magnusson, D. (2005). The psychobiology of oxytocin: An integrative review. Psychoneuroendocrinology, 30(7), 610–626. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psyneuen.2005.02.008

Ep. 306 - The 4th Monday Series - Changing The Game - New Sport Tech with Seth Daniels

Ep. 306 - The 4th Monday Series - Changing The Game - New Sport Tech with Seth Daniels

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The 4th Monday Series with Chris Hadnagy and Mike Holfeld. Chris and Mike will be covering cutting edge global news to help people remain safe, secure and knowledgeable in a world where it is hard to know what is real and what is fake news.

 

Today Chris and Mike are joined by Seth Daniels. Seth is the Director of Customer Experience and a founding employee of Rapsodo Inc., an industry leader in sports technology. Seth helped launch Rapsodo in the United States in 2015, particularly on the Diamond Sports side focusing on baseball and softball. He’s worked with all 30 MLB clubs, more than 90% of all D1 college programs and thousands of other amateur teams and organizations. [May 26, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:49 - Mike Holfeld Intro

01:03 - Today's Guest: Seth Daniels

02:01 - 24 Hours to Singapore

05:33 - Immediate Instant Reactions!

07:23 - Setting a Baseline

08:43 - Data: A Piece of the Puzzle

11:21 - Ohtani

13:06 - Age Appropriate

15:22 - Women's Sports

17:16 - Spin Doctors

19:56 - For the Hitters

22:29 - Finding the Sweet Spot

24:31 - Future Evolution

25:50 - Find Seth Daniels Online

-          rapsodo.com

26:14 - Don't Forget Golf

27:13 - Wrap Up

27:31 - Next Month: Congressman Darron Soto

27:58 - Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

 

Find us online:

-          Chris Hadnagy

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

Ep. 305 - Security Awareness Series - Using Empathy to Not Become a Mushroom with Julie Chatman

Ep. 305 - Security Awareness Series - Using Empathy to Not Become a Mushroom with Julie Chatman

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Julie Chatman. Julie is a distinguished cybersecurity executive with nearly two decades of experience in cybersecurity strategy, risk management, and AI governance.

 

She began her career in the U.S. Navy, serving on active duty as a Hospital Corpsman specializing in Medical Laboratory Science & Technology. Her transition into cybersecurity began at the FBI, where strong mentorship shaped her approach to leadership, problem solving, and talent development.

 

She currently serves as the Deputy Chief Information Security Officer for Finance at the Virginia Information Technologies Agency (VITA), where she is focused on driving risk reduction across state agencies. The role is part of a strategic engagement through her company, ResilientTech Advisors.

 

Julie leads CyberPath Coaching, where she draws on her experience as an active CISO to mentor cybersecurity professionals, accelerate their growth, and prepare them for executive roles. She works with individuals breaking into the field, mid-career professionals, aspiring CISOs, and cybersecurity entrepreneurs. [May 19, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:53 - Intro Links:

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                               

02:03 - Julie Chatman Intro

03:14 - A Hungry Brain

04:25 - We Are Mushroomed

05:54 - Being an Enabler

10:13 - Speak Their Language

13:33 - Assigning Responsibility

16:05 - A Tool, Not a Replacement

20:35 - Career Challenges

22:40 - Strategic Empathy

23:46 - Setting Boundaries

24:15 - Narrative Control

25:38 - Staying Positive

29:39 - The Target is the Same

32:09 - Book Recommendations

-          World War Z  - Max Brooks

33:20 - Mentors

-          MB Kinder

-          Martha Williams

35:14 - Find Julie Chatman Online

-          Website: cyberpathcoaching.net

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/julie-chatman-mba-infosec

35:54     Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 304 - Human Element Series - Dr. Intergalactic and Using AI to Save The World with Dr. Jose Morey

Ep. 304 - Human Element Series - Dr. Intergalactic and Using AI to Save The World with Dr. Jose Morey

Today we are joined by José Morey, M.D. Dr. Morey is Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Ad Astra Media LLC, an Eisenhower Fellow, and Co-Founder of Ever Medical Technologies. He is a health and technology keynote speaker, author, and consultant for NASA, Forbes, MIT, the United Nations World Food Program and the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. He is considered the world's first Intergalactic Doctor and is often featured on Forbes, Univision, CNBC, and NASA360. He coined Puerto Rico as the future "Silicon Island” as appeared in Forbes, The Weekly Journal, Reddit and Hispanic Executive. Additionally, he is co-author of "LatinX Business Success".  [May 12, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                               

01:37 - Dr. Jose Morey Intro

02:30 - A Marriage of Pursuits

09:48 - What is an Intergalactic Doctor?

12:21 - S.T.E.A.M.

16:51 - Limited Trust of AI

23:49 - A Tool is Amoral

27:03 - Ad Astra

31:05 - The Power of Representation

33:13 - Find Dr. Jose Morey Online

-          Website:   adastrasteammedia.org

-          LinkedIn: in/drjosemorey

-          Instagram: @adastramedia_org

33:55 - Book Recommendations

-          Leonardo da Vinci Books

-          I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings - Maya Angelou

-          Quantum Mechanics Books

35:14 - Mentors

-          Family

-          Grandmother

37:36 - Helping in a Healthy Way

39:09 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 303 - The Doctor Is In Series - Emotional Regulation in the Workplace

Ep. 303 - The Doctor Is In Series - Emotional Regulation in the Workplace

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

 

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing Emotional Regulation in the Workplace.  They will talk about the different strategies that can be used to help, not just at work, but in most areas of our lives. [May 5, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:38 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:57 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                

02:30 - The Topic of the Day: Emotional Regulation in the Workplace

04:14 - Strategy 1: Deep Acting

14:10 - Strategy 2: Mindfulness & Acceptance

19:24 - Strategy 3: Social Sharing

26:40 - Strategy 4: Humor & Distraction

31:21 - Wrap Up

33:07 - Next Month: The Lonely Chapter

33:41 - Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

 

Find us online:

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd

-          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

 

 

References:

Kalokerinos, E. K., Résibois, M., Verduyn, P., & Kuppens, P. (2017). The temporal deployment of emotion regulation strategies during negative emotional episodes. Emotion, 17(3), 450–458. https://doi.org/10.1037/emo0000248

Côté, S., & Hideg, I. (2011). The consequences of faking emotions: Emotional dissonance, relationship quality, and employee well-being. Emotion, 11(4), 803–815. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0023868

Lomas, T., Medina, J. C., Ivtzan, I., Rupprecht, S., & Eiroa-Orosa, F. J. (2019). The impact of mindfulness on well-being and performance in the workplace: An inclusive systematic review of the empirical literature. European Journal of Work and Organizational Psychology, 28(6), 782–804. https://doi.org/10.1080/1359432X.2019.1659420

Bono, J. E., Foldes, H. J., Vinson, G., & Muros, J. P. (2007). Workplace emotions: The role of supervision and leadership. Journal of Applied Psychology, 92(5), 1357–1367. https://doi.org/10.1037/0021-9010.92.5.1357

Clayton, S. (2024). Working well: The simple act of taking deep breaths can reduce stress and anxiety. Associated Press.

Ordali, E., et al. (2024). Exhaustion at work can lead to difficulty controlling emotions, scientists say. The Guardian.

Mesmer-Magnus, J., Glew, D. J., & Viswesvaran, C. (2012). A meta-analysis of positive humor in the workplace. Journal of Managerial Psychology, 27(2), 155–190. https://doi.org/10.1108/02683941211199554

Scheibe, S., & Zacher, H. (2013). A lifespan perspective on emotion regulation, stress, and well-being in the workplace. In The Oxford Handbook of Stress, Health, and Coping (pp. 291–306). Oxford University Press. https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780195375343.013.0017

Ep. 302 - The 4th Monday Series - From Scam Victim to Investment Guru with Kayla Lussier

Ep. 302 - The 4th Monday Series - From Scam Victim to Investment Guru with Kayla Lussier

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The 4th Monday Series with Chris Hadnagy and Mike Holfeld. Chris and Mike will be covering cutting edge global news to help people remain safe, secure and knowledgeable in a world where it is hard to know what is real and what is fake news.

 

Today Chris and Mike are joined by Kayla Lussier. Kayla is the co-founder of Money Match, a platform championing financial wellness by connecting real estate investors and small businesses with the capital they need to thrive. Her 15 years in healthcare as a nurse practitioner have instilled in her a deep understanding of holistic well-being – mind, body, and wallet. [April 28, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:16 - Mike Holfeld Intro

00:47 - Today's Guest: Kayla Lussier

01:53 - Jumping In Too Quickly

03:22 - Getting Burned

07:35 - Don't Mess with Kayla!

09:07 - Making a Match

13:21 - Play is the Way

15:17 - Mitigating the Risks

18:26 - Digital Nomads Welcome

21:25 - Find Kayla Lussier Online

-          Website: moneymatchapp.com

22:30 - Silver Tsunami

24:26 - Wrap Up

24:40 - Next Month: Baseball Technology

24:50 - Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

 

Find us online:

-          Chris Hadnagy

-          Twitter: @humanhacker

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

Ep. 301 - Security Awareness Series - Leadership Relationships and Becoming a CISO with Travis Farral

Ep. 301 - Security Awareness Series - Leadership Relationships and Becoming a CISO with Travis Farral

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Travis Farral. Travis has been working in information security since the 90s at places such as Nokia, ExxonMobil, and XTO Energy. He is currently VP & CISO at Archaea Energy, a bp owned, renewable natural gas company based in Houston, Texas. He has spoken at events around world on topics such as Cyber Threat Intelligence, MITRE ATT&CK, and Incident Response. Notable activities during his career include everything from programming logic controllers, building and leading SOCs, driving forklifts, standing up cybersecurity teams, developing threat intelligence programs, and handling responses to incidents, among many other things over the last few decades. [April 21, 2025]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Intro Links:

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                               

02:08 - Travis Farral Intro

02:58 - A Different Path than Today

05:25 - Healthy Hacking

08:08 - Anything Can Be Weaponized

10:54 - Questionable Behavior

14:31 - Smash That Report Button!!!

18:58 - Improving Our Odds

21:00 - You Have to Keep It Simple

22:25 - Letters to a Young CISO

24:20 - Find Travis Farral online

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/travisfarral

25:01 - Mentors

-          Shawn Edwards

-          Jay Leek

27:02 - Book Recommendations

-          R. E. Lee: A Biography  - Douglas Southall Freeman

29:34 - Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Bio of The Social-Engineer Podcast

The Social-Engineer Podcast, hosted by Social-Engineer, LLC, focuses on the intricate aspects of human behavior, communication, and information exchange to aid in understanding and protecting against social engineering attacks.

Social engineering is a multidisciplinary field that combines science, psychology, and art. It encompasses any action that influences a person to take an action that may or may not be in their best interest. The podcast acknowledges that social engineering is not always negative and extends to various aspects of our lives, such as interactions with family, therapists, children, and spouses.

While social engineering can have positive applications, it is crucial to examine how it is utilized for both good and malicious purposes. The podcast draws parallels between the principles used in personal relationships or negotiation and those exploited by scammers and malicious social engineers to obtain data, information, or financial gain.

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